• humble peat digger@lemm.ee
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    6 hours ago

    Why not establish armed compounds where we the people keep whistleblowers safe?

    Some private rancho in Texas with armed guards and lots of cameras?

    Clearly gov is failing to protect them.

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    It’s all about probabilities.

    Truth is proof, and the article contains no details to establish this absolutely. So, we are left with supposition.

    This wasn’t an isolated man with nothing to live for - while his career in AI was over, he’d left it to pursue a moral agenda. Suicide is not likely until AFTER he testifies and discharged this.

    The fact he supposedly had documents and a testimony that could heavily harm a company is enough to make it very likely his death was the cost of doing business - why pay a billion in a court case when you can pay a million for a professional hit?

    On the balance of probabilities, it looks more likely to be like foul play. As they say, Epstein didn’t kill himself.

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    Idk everyone is doing the "he was killed but

    The medical examiner’s office determined the manner of death to be suicide and police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

    Isn’t it possible the guy was troubled and just actually killed himself?

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      Can’t see the forest for the trees.

      The problem isn’t that this guy might have killed himself. The problem is that the death rate of whistleblowers is very high. That makes every individual case much more suspect, and should be held to higher standards of scrutiny. And they aren’t. So we complain.

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        I’m just saying assuming this was a murder seems premature. Thinking this is sus makes more sense

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          There’s also the possibility of him receiving threats so horrible he was coerced into suicide. “No foul play” just seems so incredibly unlikely.

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      When you consider the billions that are at stake in cramming “AI” into computers, cars, phones, agit-prop generation and military hardware, I there’s a non-zero chance that his death wasn’t accidental. Maybe a second coroner’s opinion is in order.

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      6 hours ago

      People fall out of Russian windows everyday, no one know why.

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        People also kill themselves daily (well those who succeed do it just the once)

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      its most certainly possible. but its also possible it was not since billions of dollars are at stake.

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        Yes I just mean that I wouldn’t consider it a murder without any indication of it being one

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        He was a king pedo going to prison for the rest of his life and had tried kill himself before. I definitely would’ve tried to kill myself given the chance tbh

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          If you read up on that incident though, so many things had to go wrong for him to have an opportunity to do it while locked up that it’s really hard to not consider foul play no matter what the prison or the government says about it.

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            There’s a difference between him having been murdered and giving him the opportunity to kill himself. Second case would mean that he actually did hang himself

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    You gotta set up a dead man’s switch (not literal give the evidence to a lawyer or do a deposition or whatever). Do that before you blow the whistle and announce that at the same time.

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      In some countries some people prefer to suicide themselves alone in their rooms without warning. In other countries, they prefer to suicide themselves by shooting themselves multiple times in the back and/or throwing themselves off of multiple storey buildings. Who can say? It’s not like countries led by psychopaths who put profit margins above society, including people’s lives, would ever kill people to defend their bottom line.

      There’s two barriers to justice in today’s world: The first one is having enough money to hire lawyers. The second one is having enough money to hire bodyguards.

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    Oh, I see how it is. They keep killing and killing, but we hit ONE CEO and shit hits the fan. Alright, then.

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      Why? I would think that pills are far easier. Falling out of a window has the potential to just be in pain until you go.

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      Wrong country. Drugs are easy to get here, for example, especially in silicon valley. Not to mention the easiest cause of being suicided, high caliber lead poisoning.

      That said, it’s always possible (though less likely) that he couldn’t live with himself, having helped create the current worst technology around.

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    Two bullets back of the head?

    A Boeing suicide…

    You know we all love a good laugh about russians falling out from a window but when we will start asking questions why whistle blowers “dying” is a normal occurrence in the US.

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    Its crazy how fast you die once you blow that whistle. All out class war on one side.

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    Bill Burr has this take that corporations are the mobsters of yore, they just kneecap or whack people in different ways because the law is on their side now. Until it’s not.

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        Well… A successful CEO of a major corporation. I can only imagine there might be some decent CEO’s out there.

        …none come to mind, but I think they can exist.

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          Technically all it takes to be a CEO is to spend a couple hundred dollars to register a corporation. You don’t need employees or anything. Generally the focus has been on CEOs of publicly traded companies, since the “CEO” of some local business probably isn’t making millions of dollars.