mate it’s £5-10 for a 200ml bottle I’d hardly call that cheap
In the city of Utrecht NL they have free sunblock stations spread around the city. It shows the temp and UV rating. But buying it in store is crazy expensive and often the quality is poor. Some fancy tiny spray bottles go up to 12 euros, only good for 3 to 4 uses. wtf. Imagine being ginger, there’s a ginger tax called sunblock.
As a ginger- the petrol money to go shop in Germany at DM or Rossmann is cheaper than the ginger tax here.
Then don’t buy the fancy spray bottles, but the big one that lasts for a year or three?
I’m not buying the fancy expensive shit. But the cheap stuff fills pores and creates pimples. Also, don’t use the one from last year, it has an expiration date. The protection goes down significantly.
Good point with the expiration date, but the one I have has >1 year, possibly longer since I cannot remember when I bought it
I buy the store brand from the local supermarket. €2,99 for a 250 ml bottle of SPF 30 and it works great. I never get sunburn, even during multi hour bike rides in the blazing sun.
I have autistic sensory issues and the cheapest one I can at all tolerate to have on my skin is 15€ for 50ml. I have so many of the 5-10€ bottles at home and can’t handle any of them. Fml
“ball of fire”
Haha, no no. You threw down with a gigantic source of cell destroying radiation. The fire did no harm.
There’s no fire in the sun. Fire is some material oxidizing, and that’s not what’s happening (or at least not in relevant amounts). What creates the radiation is nuclear fusion.
Hypothetically speaking, will you get sunburnt if you sit near a fire all day?
The heat could dry out your skin, which, if I’m not mistaken, is essentially what a burn is. However, as the other person noted, a sunburn is damage from radiation, not heat. So I think you could stretch the common definition of a burn to call heat induced dry skin a burn but calling it a sunburn would not be accurate.
@xavier666@lemm.ee If you sit at a magnesium fire, it burns at 3300K, which is hot enough to produce sizeable ultraviolet rays. So you can get your sunburn from that, damaging the DNA in whatever of your remaining cells have not been melted away by heat.
Note to self - Don’t sit near a magnesium fireplace if you don’t want to tan your bones, which are now exposed due to the flesh getting melted off by the said fireplace.
Thanks. I completely forgot that the standard suntan or sunburn is caused by UV rays. A fireplace doesn’t create UV rays.
A ball of constant unending nuclear explosion
So let me tell y’all about the crazies I work with. I burn easily, and there is very little shade, so I store sunscreen everywhere. My desk, the bathroom, my bag, the car, the office supply closet, etc. I often use it and offer to my colleagues when anyone needs to go out for a while.
We got a new guy on the team, he’s going out, I suggest he take some sunscreen. He tells me that sunscreen is poison and that you don’t really need it as long as you don’t wear sunglasses. He tells me that it’s wearing sunglasses that actually causes you to burn because your eyes don’t get as much sun so your brain doesn’t send the right chemicals out to protect your skin.
So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?
Idk. He said his wife still demands sunscreen for their children, so I’ll let him fry himself in peace.
Every English tourist in Australia.
…and Florida, and Jamaica, and Mexico, and (I presume) Spain. There is no corner of the earth in which the English will not challenge the mighty Helios until they are as red as the cross of St. George.
*Me in Vitoria, Spain: “You guys get sun?”
Large parts of the north of Spain are basically UK in terms of weather.
In New Zealand the sun feels like it’s stabbing you after 10min in summer. I can feel my skin prickling like tiny fire ants.It doesn’t take long to burn here. serious respect for the sun and upper atmosphere
there’s a hole in my ozone dear lyza, dear lyza…
Its not the ozon hole (well its a little bit the fault of the ozon hole) but its because due to the eleptical orbit of the earth around the sun the southern hemisphere is closer to the sun in summer than the north hemisphere.
I’m just stayin inside
On the other hand, what bullshit is it that my stupid human body can’t survive being outdoors without medicinal cream. My ancestors would be ashamed.
Mud and henna masks and other full skin coverings are extremely common among indigenous people and presumably your ancestors as well.
We also used to have much more hair, shadowing the skin from sun
Your ancestors had melanin production to fit their sun exposure and seldom lived past 40
Maybe tens of thousands of years ago, but 2000ish years ago 60ish was old age. The main reason life expectancy has gone up isn’t that old people didn’t make it to 50, it’s that young people didn’t make it to 2. If a couple has 5 kids, 3 of them die as toddlers and the other two make it to 70 the average life expectancy is about 30, but that doesn’t mean living past 30 is unusual.
Also, tens of thousands of years ago there was an ice age, but for the last 10k years light-skinned Europeans still had normal summers and worked in the fields.
Yes, that is when we evolved
Speak for yourself.
And only then?
Your ancestors didn’t shave
I don’t either, but my nose isn’t hairy and it would burn to a crisp outdoors.
i get burnt with multiple layers of sun lotion
I would wear suncream more often, but:
- I’m allergic to something in most brands of suncream so if I run out I’m having to deal with rashes all over where I used it.
- I hate how it makes me feel slimy after using it
There’s this Loreal suncream spray I like that I can’t seem to find that feels like water and when it’s dry, it doesn’t feel like you have suncream on. It’s perfect for me! I’m not allergic to it either so I can actually go in the sun without turning red and blotchy!
Yeah, and it’s also def NOT cheap.
that feels like water and when it’s dry,
What does water feel like when it’s dry?
only one way to find out
Key word being “and”.
If the cream wasn’t such a goddamn sensory nightmare…
UPF clothes FTWNot wearing sunscreen and getting a sunburn is a psyop to get men to buy more aloe vera.
Which, btw, might feel kind of nice, but you’ll still get skin cancer.
You got to give props to the people who convinced idiots that sunscreen causes cancer.
I hadn’t heard that one. Somehow I’m not surprised though.
Yeah… The number of times I’ve heard something along the lines of “the sunscreen is worse for you than the sunburn” is too many.
as a man I have the primal urge to pick a fight with the giant ball of fire in the sky, I lost this time but one day.
Let me let you in on a little secret…you gotta attack at night.
Unfortunately I’ve already committed to it happening one DAY.
It’s actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation
(I know, not the same intensity) but think about the amount of precautions we take before turning on a UV lamp. Or before turning on a very bright LED which you are not supposed to look directly at. Well, neither you should look directly at the sun, but you get the idea
In a perspective, sun is so radioactive it can even decay paint and plastic! It can literally cook you alive and make your skin fall in pieces. This just seems usual to us because we were born with it, people would freak the hell out if a medical procedure had the same side effects
Look, I can make a right wing campaign out of this! BAN THE SUN SAVE YOUR KIDS FROM 800T (Terahertz) RADIATION
It’s actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation
Yeah, it’s called a sunburn!
If you hate the feel of sunscreen like I do, check out UPF clothing 👍
My wife can spend all day in the sun and turn a nice shade of brown.
Not me. There is no “tan” for me. It’s either pasty white or lobster with no middle ground whatsoever.
I turn a lovely tan. It just happens after two weeks of bright red and screamy and a few days of pale and peeling.
>be me
>white as everliving fuck
>put on 60 spf sun screen, as you should, and set a timer for an hour and a half to reapply, earlier than the recommended 2 hours
>alarm goes off, reapply
>STILL GET SUNBURNEDmfw
I used to have that problem. I switched to 30 spf and don’t get burned anymore. I can’t really explain it, but my theory is that 50+ is marketing BS and doesn’t actually do anything. Or it could be that Banana Boat brand just really sucks and Hawaiian is more like lotion so it actually stays on my skin and also moisturizes, which probably helps because dry skin = gonna get burned.
Get 100 spf, I’ve never even tanned on that shit.
The difference between SPF 60 and 100 is like 1.1% better UV blocking, anything over SPF 50 is in a practical sense nearly useless.
For instance SPF 30 blocks 97% of UVB rays, is it worth paying more and slathering more potentially harmful (to the environment) compounds on your skin for 98% blocking? I think not.
I used to think the same thing, but the thing is we don’t care about the energy that goes into the sunscreen, we care about the remaining percent that goes into the skin. If you go from a sunscreen that absorbs 98% of the sun’s energy to one that absorbs 99% you are halving the amount of energy your skin is exposed to.
If you’re still getting burned with 98% absorption, then increasing that number by 1% would actually make a huge difference. And that’s without even considering things like having a safety margin for improper application.
Fair point
what if your skin has a hit point system and that 1% difference is the breaking point of sunburn
Seems like in real world use it makes a difference.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0190962219327550
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29291958/
From another thing I read, people have a tendency to not apply enough sunscreen or apply it correctly. I’m sure if everyone did it perfectly it wouldn’t matter. All I know is anecdotally, when I switched to 100 I stopped getting sunburns, and I have been in situations with people who used their own lower spf, got a little burned still, and I came out of it pale white.
The price might be higher, but a quick look on Amazon and I’m seeing more than spf affecting that. The brand I buy is about 1.80 (usd) per ounce, and i see other brands with less spf for more. I see other brands with the same spf for less, and it seems like it’s between ~1.10 per ounce to ~2.80 per ounce so I’m not really bothered by my price. I don’t know anything about the environmental differences between spf so I won’t comment on that.
The average person should almost certainly not be using it, but maybe it would make the difference for extremely sun sensitive people.
I have never in my life seen anything seen anything higher than 50+
Lotion is good for the first coat, but the spray is so much easier to apply when you’re already sweaty and sand is everywhere.
I once somehow got sunburned while inside my bedroom
