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    In times like this, especially when the original twitter post gets ratio’d to shit, it’s important to evaluate where they’re getting their numbers. I see they post a link to Rumble. I’ve never heard of this before, what is it?

    Rumble
    Rumble is a video platform where you can watch live and on-demand content from various categories, such as news, politics, gaming, sports, viral, power slap and finance. You can also discover new creators, join communities, and support your favorite channels on Rumble.

    Um… I don’t know what Power Slap is but ok, it’s a youtube clone.

    All Videos
    ALEX JONES EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Elon Brought Him Back… What’s Next?!
    Pentagon PANIC, Trump “Happening”, Obama FEAR push, Cyber PUSH, Focus, Pray!
    “HE’S BACK!!” Musk RESTORES Alex Jones On X…
    NEWSMAX2 LIVE on Rumble

    Oh fuck me it’s a right wing nutjob site. This post is fucking dogshit, trashing Wikipedia because it helps counter their propaganda. Fuck that noise.

    Happily other people noticed this fucking nonsense:

    So I have no idea what the Lunduke Journal is, so I spent a couple minutes googling it to find its run by a Qanon guy and they themselves say their “tech satire” so… Maybe not someone you should trust with facts.

    He says elsewhere that it’s a “liberal cesspool” so you know where is problem really is.

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      The dude does not even seem to know what a nonprofit is.

      Their calculation of Wikipedia being able to run for 100 years is if you removed everyone’s salary. Not sure you would get many people working 40+ hours a week for free voluntarily.

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      This lunduke recently posted the same shit against Mozilla, and sadly a lot of ppl here in lemmy are buying their crap and started bashing Mozilla for everything, at least in the posts I saw recently. I think ppl still believe that free software should be made from free labor.

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      Also the CEO makes $400k if anyone just wanted that information. I had to listen to 60% of that dudes video to get to that point.

      This doesn’t seem insane to me. It’s high for the average joe, but it’s not competitive at all with other big tech CEO total comp.

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    The CEO made $780k with $600k of that being severance. She left Wikipedia a lot bigger and influential than when she started. Sure that is still a lot but there are much bigger fish to fry.

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    Those are very reasonable salaries to me. What’s insane and should never exist is those who make $200 million a year. Like who needs this much money? What are you gonna do with all of it? Does it even matter how much money you have after a certain amount? I think at a certain point it becomes some kind of disorder or a mental illness to pursue more and more money. Give me $100k a year and I’ll be a happy, very happy camper.

    Edit: to be more clear, I’m talking about where I live currently. $100k where I live would put me in a very comfortable spot financially. My bad, everyone.

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      yup. wikipedia’s salaries aren’t ‘too low’–the others (mostly-publicly traded or dreaming-of-an-ipo) pay their top executives way too fucking much.

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    So they’re making $150-300k per year, with more for severance. That is indeed relatively low compared to major tech companies.

    The article’s examples were Docusign (CEO made $85M) and Google (CEO made $225M).

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    If all other executives would earn as much as the guys from Wikipedia, the world would be a better place.

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    I’m all for CEOs and executives limiting their pay, ideally based on what they pay their regular employees, but of all the companies in the tech space to get mad at, they choose one that’s actually doing a significant public service?

    And I know people are gonna say it’s the volunteers that do the real work but people still had to build and run things. I dunno, I respect them getting luxury pay more than anyone at Facebook at least.

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    US salaries are just completely bonkers. 500k is “mid-level facebook”? What the actual fuck? Europeans are getting completely shafted. They are the cheap, qualified, tech labor of the US.

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      One reason tech companies are able to give absurd salaries is to suppress competition. If they can price everyone else out from good engineers, they can keep competition low.

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    Translation: business-types are salty about Wikipedia not toeing the line on the fiction that executive pay “needs” to be obscene in order to “attract talent.”

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      They don’t like it when real life counters their narrative, and this shows that corporations can pay reasonable salaries to their executives.

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      I still think the “low” salary of Wikimedia is obscene.

      There is no way even that figure is proportionate to what these people actually do day to day.

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    It used to be that Wikimedia projects had lots of volunteers willing to maintain the projects, but the WMF didn’t have a lot of money. Now the WMF is swimming in money (which it uses to do more and more “office actions” bypassing community processes), but editor numbers are staying constant or even shrinking. People nowadays like to spend time a lot more pretty much everywhere else on the Internet than on Wikimedia projects.

    It is time for free knowledge to transition to a concept where people get paid, not the wiki concept that worked fine to start out in the beginning, but whose limits have now become clear.

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      She’s CEO of Mozilla foundation (charity) but also Mozilla corporation (normal business).

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      So? If that’s what she’s worth then you either hire her, or put up with second best. You may think CEOs are paid too much overall - I’m not disagreeing, but let’s not pretend people who work for charities should all take charity salaries. If you want to build a world class product, hire world class people - they’re not cheap.

      I cannot fathom the indignation.

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            The absolute nosedive of firefox’s share, its erratic and pointless development, the waste of money… in fact there are many valid criticisms against mozilla and its mismanagement, take your pick.

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              In a world set against you, even doing the right thing might not lead to success.

              They are deeply dependent on Google; they’ve been trying to find revenue without Google. They’ve largely failed, but that doesn’t mean the strategy is wrong.