• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Let’s pretend for a second that voting blue would stop the slaughter at “just” the Palestinians (it doesn’t).

      If you think you’re knowingly sacrificing an entire people to annihilation just so save your own skin, and you can not only live with that but argue in favor of it instead of redacting your entire government, you’re a fucking nazi. Peddle your them-or-us genocide support somewhere else you blue maga piece of shit.

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      You can fight the trolley itself instead of justifying supporting genocide.

      PS this is the real world not a meme. Political power is not a trolley problem, it is a matter of organization and education. You disempower yourself and others by pretending you can only backseat cheerlead a genocide. Instead of supporting this, go and join an organization that is actually opposing it and start doing work.

      In the US, every student is eventually presented with lessons on the Holocaust and asked to think about what they would do. Right now, to be honest, your answer would have to be, “support it using poorly thought out propaganda”.

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        Very long way of saying you’re looking forward to trump being in power again and forever taking away your right to vote.

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          Very short way of saying you will never lift a finger other than to vote even if Trump takes away your right to vote.

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          My comment already contradicts your response, even with its inventions. Please try to address what I say rather than making things up.

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            You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

            I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

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              You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

              Of course voting is not the only course of action. Voting is incredibly little. What, you check a box? Maybe wait a few hours at most to get into a pilling station? Dear God.

              This is an incredibly limited amount of political action, particularly given the way in which box checking translates into any political action (electoral college, media monopolies, biased education, wage slavery limiting political education, campaigns built on donations from capital).

              I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

              You actually do political work. You become educated and join an organization that does more than act as a sheepdog that turns alienatuon into genocide votes.

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      Just openly admitting you support genocide. Disgusting. And don’t even pretend you care about anyone represented in the bottom half of the image; if Democrats said murdering trans folks was necessary to beat Trump, you’d support that too.

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        If Democrats said murdering trans folks was necessary to beat Trump that means the overton window is too far gone and I’d be looking to ship as many trans folks out of the country as I could manage with my means. If and when it reaches that point, US democracy would be too far gone to even consider saving it. I don’t believe it is right now, as flawed as it is currently. Which is why engaging in harm reduction is still worth it.

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          Maybe if any of you harm reducing fools grew a backbone and had some principles on who you’ll vote for we wouldn’t have to think about when that will happen in the US. Watching the Dems slide further and further right while saying they’re better than Republicans is not helping anyone, especially future Americans

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        This message brought to you by Jill Stein who pops up every four years to grift money and accomplish nothing except cozying up to Putin. I guess there is still the brain worm dead animal guy?

        Third parties in the US are unserious. I wish that weren’t the case but that’s the reality.

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          Let’s steel man your argument and say you’re 100% correct. Throwing away your vote or not voting is still morally better than voting for someone who won’t commit to not enabling a genocide.

          And that’s assuming your predicate is correct, which it’s not.

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        Oh, please tell me which third party candidate not only has a real shot at this election but is also not just a far-right grifter in disguise.

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      A more accurate picture would have all of the people on the republican track on the democrat track too, just covered with a tarp to conceal their real aims.

      Also, tha US flag shouldn’t be on either track since neither of the two right wings of the capitalist party would dare throw away the empire that furthers their and their masters’ (the capitalist class) interests.