Cloud Imperium Games, the developer of Star Citizen, has mandated its developers to work seven days a week to meet deadlines for Citizencon on October 19th.
  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
    581·
    1 month ago

    So they’re just announcing they have either incompetent product managers, executives who refuse to believe reality, or both.

    I hope their developers all find better roles.

    For record, as a developer, I have worked many a weekend in my career during crunch. I was never mandated to do so, and I always made up the time afterwards. Only once in my entire career was it 2 weekends in a row, and it’s because it was a big that was because of me.

    • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
      345·
      1 month ago

      Crunches are regular and unfortunately common in software development. The difference here is star citizen devs are well compensated and given time in lieu

      • fibojoly@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        51·
        1 month ago

        Crunches are regular and common

        … and that’s not good and needs to change. You forgot to write the important part.

      • Agent Karyo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        1 month ago

        The difference here is star citizen devs are well compensated and given time in lieu

        How did you come to this conclusion? IIRC their salaries are below average.

      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
        161·
        1 month ago

        Bullshit. First for you assuming I’m not well compensated for my work, and also assuming that compensation makes up for not seeing your family for weeks. Crunches are normal, mandated multiple weeks without a day off are not normal.

        • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
          27·
          1 month ago

          Would you mind sharing what you think a crunch is if not for working overtime?

          I’m a dev too so well done and fuck you for being well compensated? Hahah

      • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
        3·
        1 month ago

        Does it confirm they are getting TOIL in the article? (It’s not loading for me)

  • elgordino@fedia.io
    29·
    1 month ago

    The email continues that UK employees “need to be mindful of the hours they work and are asked to have 11 hours outside of work in each 24-hour period.”

    This is an attempt to stay within working time regulations in the UK but they are violating this bit

    By law (The Working Time Regulations 1998), employees and workers have the right to the following rest: …. between working weeks – 24 hours every 7 working days or 48 hours every 14 working days

    By having a 19 day unbroken run which, as I understand it, is not legal.

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      1 month ago

      That’s bad but also the first bit is basically saying “work 13 hour days” which is nuts.

  • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    4·
    1 month ago

    Isn’t Star Citizen that named grift that’s been going on for a decade or so?

  • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
    636·
    1 month ago

    Don’t understand the negative response, all devs are being compensated for it and being given extra leave

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
      341·
      1 month ago

      it’s about consent. asking people to volunteer is fine, but mandating it isn’t. People have lives, kids, obligations, which might be worth more then two days of time in lieu.

        • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          253·
          1 month ago

          Why do they need to work these two weekends on a project that has been ongoing for years?

            • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              7·
              1 month ago

              Yeah, and fuck that. If I perform well on the job, I’m sure as hell not being there for mandated bullshit. Fire me if you want.

              Guess what those policies do? They drive your good employees away, and you keep those who can’t find somewhere better.

        • IcyToes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          41·
          1 month ago

          So what do they do with the kids at the weekend when nursery’s are closed?

          CIG could have hired more people previously…

          • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
            22·
            1 month ago

            Read the mythical man month. Hiring more people does NOT get software projects completed faster

            • IcyToes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              4·
              1 month ago

              Not immediately. It’s more of a warning about throwing short term resources on to get quick results. However, under resourcing and overworking staff does not exactly lead to speedy development.

              The key point was previously. It’s not like this is their first attempt. They know the work that goes into this and they know what their aims were long ago.

    • fibojoly@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      181·
      1 month ago

      You don’t understand because you think it’s normal. That shit is not normal.

      That’s like saying “well, they treat their slaves well! What are y’all complaining about?” when the issue is that you’re a slave.