I’d like to preface this with the fact that I do donate time, money, and on occasion PRs to open source projects.
But frankly, I don’t believe anyone has any obligation to donate to an open source project.
I also don’t think anyone has any obligation to give 8% of their revenue to a project that’s completely under the control of a man that ALSO runs a commercial entity extracting money from the same project.
And I REALLY don’t think you have any obligation to give a guy worth $400 million one damn cent for using his GPL-ed software.
It’s not like he’s going to take the money and give it to the people in the community developing it, it’s going to go into his business - and thus right into his pockets.
This is just CEO corpo greed, and frankly, screw Matt. He has enough, and if his business is falling over because he got greedy and got into bed with VC and bought a failed social media network, well, that’s his problem and not everyone who uses Wordpress’.
There is when you’re actively sabotaging the other company trying to use the open source thing you wrote.
Which is what’s happening here: Wordpress started out with blocking WPEngine’s access to plugins on wordpress.org, which fine, Matt runs it so he can do so. But that’s clearly a conflict of interests that he has the unilateral ability to block anyone’s access because of a business dispute.
Then he moved on to adding a checkbox that requires you to swear you’re not related to WPengine in any way to access wordpress.org as well as banning people that asked any questions on the developer slack, which again, is fine, but it’s clearly indicating that Matt has some conflicts he’s unwilling to resolve.
Then he forked the most popular wordpress plugin (which is the property of WPEngine) which again, is fine. What WASN’T fine is he redirected the ACF url on wordpress.org to his fork. That’s, again, a clear sign he’s conflicted as hell and taking actions that are utterly absolutely unaccptable.
If he had just made it a 404, or whatever, then cool. But to just silently give you a different piece of software? He can fuck off with that nonsense.
That’s the problem here: he’s doing lame-brained nonsense because he believes the opensource side and the business side are both his (because he’s structured it so they are) and is actively, and aggressively, doing shit to screw with people he doesn’t like because they’re a threat to his business.
Not remotely acceptable, and he needs to be slapped down so hard he ends up being six inches shorter.
Yeah I don’t understand the comments here. Sounds like dude took a freemium software and decided to officially take ownership of developing a fully Foss version. Sounds good to me.
Haven’t dived too deep in this case. But aren’t WP engine leeching the open source project while barely contributing back to the OSS project?
I’d like to preface this with the fact that I do donate time, money, and on occasion PRs to open source projects.
But frankly, I don’t believe anyone has any obligation to donate to an open source project.
I also don’t think anyone has any obligation to give 8% of their revenue to a project that’s completely under the control of a man that ALSO runs a commercial entity extracting money from the same project.
And I REALLY don’t think you have any obligation to give a guy worth $400 million one damn cent for using his GPL-ed software.
It’s not like he’s going to take the money and give it to the people in the community developing it, it’s going to go into his business - and thus right into his pockets.
This is just CEO corpo greed, and frankly, screw Matt. He has enough, and if his business is falling over because he got greedy and got into bed with VC and bought a failed social media network, well, that’s his problem and not everyone who uses Wordpress’.
What? There’s nothing wrong with a group of people who make a Foss product also hosting that product for a fee.
Unless they intentionally sabatogue documentation and make it hard to self-host like Discource. But WordPress is doing things right here.
There is when you’re actively sabotaging the other company trying to use the open source thing you wrote.
Which is what’s happening here: Wordpress started out with blocking WPEngine’s access to plugins on wordpress.org, which fine, Matt runs it so he can do so. But that’s clearly a conflict of interests that he has the unilateral ability to block anyone’s access because of a business dispute.
Then he moved on to adding a checkbox that requires you to swear you’re not related to WPengine in any way to access wordpress.org as well as banning people that asked any questions on the developer slack, which again, is fine, but it’s clearly indicating that Matt has some conflicts he’s unwilling to resolve.
Then he forked the most popular wordpress plugin (which is the property of WPEngine) which again, is fine. What WASN’T fine is he redirected the ACF url on wordpress.org to his fork. That’s, again, a clear sign he’s conflicted as hell and taking actions that are utterly absolutely unaccptable.
If he had just made it a 404, or whatever, then cool. But to just silently give you a different piece of software? He can fuck off with that nonsense.
That’s the problem here: he’s doing lame-brained nonsense because he believes the opensource side and the business side are both his (because he’s structured it so they are) and is actively, and aggressively, doing shit to screw with people he doesn’t like because they’re a threat to his business.
Not remotely acceptable, and he needs to be slapped down so hard he ends up being six inches shorter.
Makes sense to me to redirect to the official Foss fork.
Its not property of anyone. Its foss software. You can’t own an idea or code.
Then the mistake was made many years ago by releasing the code under GPLv2, with no obligation to contribute back.
Yeah I don’t understand the comments here. Sounds like dude took a freemium software and decided to officially take ownership of developing a fully Foss version. Sounds good to me.
But doesn’t that definition apply to the vast majority of people/companies that use WordPress?