The other console makers put their games on PC already. That you can pirate Nintendo games on PC and run them better than if you bought them legitimately is further evidence that the console exclusive model doesn’t make sense anymore.
Nor I them. If they want to curb piracy, they can offer a better product than you’d get if you stole it. At this point, that means making their games available on PC. Likewise, when their back catalog is only legally available to rent and not purchase, I don’t know how they expect anything other than piracy to result from that.
This is a great example of entitlement to other people’s work. Do you know those evil companies that you crave entertainment from also employ people who create this entertainment? You show complete and utter disrespect to the work that those people do.
It’s interesting that you assume I pirate Switch games just because I can see why people pirate. I probably booted up Yuzu at some point to just see it running, but I only actually played Switch games on an actual Switch. My preferred method of playing Switch games these days is to not play them at all.
The ROMs I’ve got for their old platforms are games I’ve mostly bought before, and the rest are those that can’t be purchased digitally at all. I just organize them and play them my way, which is better than Nintendo has ever made them available. If they have people they need to pay, then maybe they ought to sell me those old ROMs rather than sue the people who make them available.
I don’t understand why are you participating in this discussion on what are you talking about specifically then. Nobody ought to sell you anything if they don’t want to.
You brought up your interpretation of why people pirate Nintendo games. I think it’s pretty clear that if stealing is better, people have an incentive to steal it. It’s also a harder sell to say that those poor creators need to get paid when the way they made it available is not how their customers want it. All of this is relevant to the discussion of the diminishing role consoles play these days compared to the old days.
That interpretation I brought up is something I’m seeing on Lemmy constantly and it annoys me to no end. It boils down to „I don’t like the way Nintendo chooses to do business, therefore I can take their work”. I agree that this is a good enough reason to pirate stuff from a company that produces nothing of real value or is truly evil. Nintendo is not evil by a long shot.
People treat Nintendo as they were really dumb but Nintendo simply values their own work. Their games are exclusive to their own hardware and barely go on sale. This means that long term people assign more value to their work too and second hand copies are not disposable like everything else. It also shows in how much care Nintendo puts into their own games. They’re one of the last publishers that has major development studios that won’t make a game unless it brings something new to the table. And that’s possible only because Nintendo is a toy company first. This also leads to how Nintendo behaves, for better or worse.
People will say this is a service problem and that’s why they pirate. Yeah, and that’s on purpose because Nintendo knows what would happen otherwise. The alternative is turning Nintendo into a publisher that’s no different from Activision, churning out disposable games, chasing quarterly earning by filling them with ads and in app purchases. If that happens we all lose.
I stole plenty of Nintendo games in my life but I don’t go around saying Nintendo owes me anything. Those old games should be public domain but copyright law is a joke. That still doesn’t mean I’m entitled to that work because things could be priced differently under those circumstances.
I’ll also say good riddance on shutting down Yuzu, they profited from Nintendo work. Also fuck Nintendo for shutting down Ryujinx, they didn’t do anything wrong and Nintendo know this.
Nintendo is definitely not diminishing unlike other console makers. I think that’s precisely because of the above.
Nintendo will last longer on what is quickly becoming an outdated business model because they sell to a large audience of children. Their older Zelda or Metroid fans are more likely to be bothered by the fact that, for arbitrary business reasons, they’re prohibited from running those games at higher frame rates or resolutions. But I’m a tinkerer. If I want to do something my way, and there’s a way to do it, I’m going to. Nintendo could monetize me, but they opt not to.
I buy Nintendo games but I don’t believe they have should have any right to block me from running their software that I’ve dumped myself on any device I see fit. How does that make me entitled when I purchased their software?
I have never said emulation is unethical and even said something to the tune „fuck Nintendo for what they did to Ryujinx (but not Yuzu)” further below. Regardless, let’s not kid ourselves, you’re definitely in a minority if you really buy those games.
The other console makers put their games on PC already. That you can pirate Nintendo games on PC and run them better than if you bought them legitimately is further evidence that the console exclusive model doesn’t make sense anymore.
You know those companies don’t owe you anything?
Nor I them. If they want to curb piracy, they can offer a better product than you’d get if you stole it. At this point, that means making their games available on PC. Likewise, when their back catalog is only legally available to rent and not purchase, I don’t know how they expect anything other than piracy to result from that.
This is a great example of entitlement to other people’s work. Do you know those evil companies that you crave entertainment from also employ people who create this entertainment? You show complete and utter disrespect to the work that those people do.
It’s interesting that you assume I pirate Switch games just because I can see why people pirate. I probably booted up Yuzu at some point to just see it running, but I only actually played Switch games on an actual Switch. My preferred method of playing Switch games these days is to not play them at all.
The ROMs I’ve got for their old platforms are games I’ve mostly bought before, and the rest are those that can’t be purchased digitally at all. I just organize them and play them my way, which is better than Nintendo has ever made them available. If they have people they need to pay, then maybe they ought to sell me those old ROMs rather than sue the people who make them available.
I don’t understand why are you participating in this discussion on what are you talking about specifically then. Nobody ought to sell you anything if they don’t want to.
You brought up your interpretation of why people pirate Nintendo games. I think it’s pretty clear that if stealing is better, people have an incentive to steal it. It’s also a harder sell to say that those poor creators need to get paid when the way they made it available is not how their customers want it. All of this is relevant to the discussion of the diminishing role consoles play these days compared to the old days.
That interpretation I brought up is something I’m seeing on Lemmy constantly and it annoys me to no end. It boils down to „I don’t like the way Nintendo chooses to do business, therefore I can take their work”. I agree that this is a good enough reason to pirate stuff from a company that produces nothing of real value or is truly evil. Nintendo is not evil by a long shot.
People treat Nintendo as they were really dumb but Nintendo simply values their own work. Their games are exclusive to their own hardware and barely go on sale. This means that long term people assign more value to their work too and second hand copies are not disposable like everything else. It also shows in how much care Nintendo puts into their own games. They’re one of the last publishers that has major development studios that won’t make a game unless it brings something new to the table. And that’s possible only because Nintendo is a toy company first. This also leads to how Nintendo behaves, for better or worse.
People will say this is a service problem and that’s why they pirate. Yeah, and that’s on purpose because Nintendo knows what would happen otherwise. The alternative is turning Nintendo into a publisher that’s no different from Activision, churning out disposable games, chasing quarterly earning by filling them with ads and in app purchases. If that happens we all lose.
I stole plenty of Nintendo games in my life but I don’t go around saying Nintendo owes me anything. Those old games should be public domain but copyright law is a joke. That still doesn’t mean I’m entitled to that work because things could be priced differently under those circumstances.
I’ll also say good riddance on shutting down Yuzu, they profited from Nintendo work. Also fuck Nintendo for shutting down Ryujinx, they didn’t do anything wrong and Nintendo know this.
Nintendo is definitely not diminishing unlike other console makers. I think that’s precisely because of the above.
Nintendo will last longer on what is quickly becoming an outdated business model because they sell to a large audience of children. Their older Zelda or Metroid fans are more likely to be bothered by the fact that, for arbitrary business reasons, they’re prohibited from running those games at higher frame rates or resolutions. But I’m a tinkerer. If I want to do something my way, and there’s a way to do it, I’m going to. Nintendo could monetize me, but they opt not to.
I buy Nintendo games but I don’t believe they have should have any right to block me from running their software that I’ve dumped myself on any device I see fit. How does that make me entitled when I purchased their software?
I have never said emulation is unethical and even said something to the tune „fuck Nintendo for what they did to Ryujinx (but not Yuzu)” further below. Regardless, let’s not kid ourselves, you’re definitely in a minority if you really buy those games.