• grue@lemmy.worldOPM
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    1 year ago

    My intention is definitely “fuck cars.” The fucked-up thing here is that even ambulance drivers, who should know better more so than almost anybody, are incompetently right-hooking cyclists. Billing him for it is merely the icing on the shit-cake.

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      1 year ago

      A lot of EMTs work 24-hour shifts, and 48-hour shifts are not uncommon. The thought that the ambulance driver on the road next to me might be at hour 46 is… frequently worrying.

      The problem isn’t the EMTs being incompetent, the problem is with the industry standards and the employers.

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        I was forced to work a few 24+ hour shifts in healthcare and working on zero sleep fucked me up. It gave me migraines, vomiting, insomnia, manic depression and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

        It is beyond cruel and inhumane that employers can force people to work without sleep. It is so fucked that not allowing someone to sleep is considered a form of torture by the Geneva convention.

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      1 year ago

      So your alternative would be that ambulances should no longer use cars? From my perspective all kind of emergency services such as fire department, law enforcement, ambulances should be the very last cars we get rid of as a society. They have to be fast and they need to transport a lot of stuff and people.

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          1 year ago

          The rest of the world often also builds better infrastructure, like a protected bike lane, to signifcantly reduce the conflicts between cars and not cars.

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            1 year ago

            A bike lane would’ve helped. If there wasn’t one, I can see a good reason for whatever the fuck really happened here.

            If there had been a bike lane, he could/would have stayed there behind the stopping line acknowledging the right of the ambulance to go first, but without one…I can see someone in panic trying to get out of the way and then getting run over regardless of where he was positioned.

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              1 year ago

              Youre ignoring the bike lanes are separate from the car lanes, which protects cyclists. But in the US the firedept doesn’t like that. Lanes need to be so wide and space so clear that the bikes have no space

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                I’m not sure I get what you’re saying, or what I’m missing.

                I’m talking about the most basic kind of bike lane, which by all means is just a line on the tarmac. It does however ensure that the bike has a place to be, and that the bike will be visible to the cars, because the bike lane’s stopping line is further ahead than that of the cars. I also don’t know the exact situation from the article, but if the bike had been at the stopping line in this bike lane, it would never conflict with a right turning ambulance.

                picture of bike lane

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                  Why bother doing all that, saying you dont understand when you could have just watched the video lmao.

                  Get out sometime, see what things look like in the world instead of drawing images in your own little view.

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                    I still don’t have any clue about what part of my comment you object against, or why you’re so fucking negative about it.

                    All I’m saying is that the right turn accident was completely preventable by making a simple painted line on the tarmac, as it is done in many places where there isn’t room for the kind of huge separated bike lanes as shown in your photo.

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              The size of a country shouldn’t impact urban areas that much. Cyclists aren’t biking from california to florida on a daily basis, they are biking from their home to their job, gym, or groccery store. Your country is not too big for bike lanes, you’re city planners are just wastefull.

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                Oh I don’t disagree, just a fair point, it wouldnt make any sense in rural areas, which is 97% of the USA landmass lol

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              Which makes my point. Japan has 300+ people per square km, almost 10x as dense as the US. They still put out fires and carry sick people.

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                My point is it’s much easier to have localized support when there isn’t miles between buildings lol

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                  Oh I didn’t realize you were making a strawman argument.

                  We were discussing the unnecessarily large emergency vehicles.

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                    1 year ago

                    Is it a straw man when I am saying the majority of America is rural and therefore urban-specific fixes for this issue can’t fully apply in a country as large as the USA as it can for some the size of our smallest states

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          Fun fact, many if not most of those ambulances are made in Canada, and not the USA.

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              1 year ago

              Absolutely true, it was mostly just a response to the “rest of the world” part of the grandparent’s comment.

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      Ahhh okay, but you’re not trying to argue that paramedics should be on bicycles or taking public transit! That was the thing that puzzled me.

      I think we could avoid a lot of the issues with pedestrians and cyclists getting hit by motor vehicles by getting rid of stroads and properly designing cities to separate streets and roads.