• nBodyProblem@lemmy.world
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      I can’t fathom how people saw police beating protesters to death in 2020, are decrying the new Trump presidency as the rise of fascism in America, and still believe that the government should be the only ones with firepower in their hands.

      Now is exactly the time when the left should be rallying behind the second amendment.

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      I dont see a problem with owning guns. Its just taken too lightly in the states. To get a gun where im at, you need to get certified - theoretical, physical and psychological tests are done. And no one starts pissing about personal freedoms if they fail these tests. I think you also need to be member of a shooting club. Point is, you need to demonstrate your ability to handle a weapon responsibly. Im not one to confuse correlation with causation but… you dont see many stories of shootings here.

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        Aren’t shooting clubs and the licensing prohibitively expensive? This is just to disarm the working class. If the poor can’t afford equal protection they are slaves.

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          I wouldn’t look at it from that perspective. Similar situation with driving licenses, which require first aid training, 20+ hours of driving lessons with an instructor, theory lessons, testing, and costly things of that nature. If you want a gun and are fit to own one, you will not have a problem doing so, no matter your class.

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            At the same time, sometimes driving license requirements feel like they are too high and a racket.

            I got my scooter license by answering 48/50 questions right and doing a 4 hour practical course at the driving center to get it on the same day. I paid $50 to do it.

            This license allows me to drive a 50cc bike like an Aprilia RS50, which can hit the speed limit when I drive it on the same roads as everyone else.

            First aid is fair enough, but why do I have to pay $1500 to attend a driving school and answer 100 questions or pay $80 to take the 2% chance of passing it at the license test center (because the test is graded by cops and one of the cushy jobs for them before retirement is as advisors at driving schools) to be able to ride something that is marginally faster and heavier?

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            And that is where the difference between privileges and rights is. Privileges exist by definition for the privileged.

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        Cool, if the dumb as shit fascist down the street owns a gun and wants you to die for being different then you need to protect yourself.

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      Ah yes. The true red blooded American solution; the only way to solve a serious problem is to escalate it out of proportion.

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          *When anyone does it.

          The solution to there being too many guns is to remove the guns. Not add more.

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            Cool, well that’s definitely not an option now that we voted in a right wing fascist.

            Maybe once leftists get in charge again we can try passing reasonable gun laws again