When it originally launched, I feared it would go the same way as Valve’s previous inventions in the VR
What the hell is she talking about?
Index still gets regular updates and it still doesn’t really have any competition at its price point (Quest with its ridiculous account requirements doesn’t count).
Just because Index was not a massive success due to its significantly higher cost doesn’t mean it’s a failure, and it’s far from abandoned.
How is the index? I’ve been thinking about getting one but I feel like there’s a new version right around the corner.
It’s great, especially the controllers - there’s nothing else like it.
And, well, it’s the only headset making any claims about Linux compatibility, which is also a big thing for me.But your concern is the exact reason I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Of course, Valve works on Valve Time, so the chances Deckard will release next month are basically the same as it releasing anytime in the next decade.
I actually spend a lot more time on PSVR2 than Index these days, and when I do switch back to Index, I kinda miss some of the features.
If money is no object, I think the current best arrangement is probably something like a Bigscreen Beyond with Audio Strap, Index controllers, and the requisite lighthouses. But that’s about $1600 compared to the PSVR2, which was on sale for $350 over the holidays. PSVR2 games are generally more polished, but you also don’t have the bonkers modding scene like PCVR does. You can run PSVR2 on the PC now, but most of the best features stop working. So there really isn’t a perfect solution.
I wouldn’t even consider a headset that has under 120hz refresh. Huge downgrade
I’m by no means a huge VR user but I find the PSVR2 rendering based on your focus point to be a really neat feature for that reason.
Wherever you’re looking gets full resolution. Things in your perifory get downscaled. This helps the headset maintain max FPS at the full Hz.
Note: I don’t own one, I just think the tech for that is near.
I’m actually surprised the BB is only 90 Hz. I’m not that much of a stickler for it, but I get it.
Bigscreen Beyond
Yeah, it does look pretty nice, but no Linux support, especially at this price, makes it a no-go for me. :(
edit: well, shit, apparently it doesn’t do any proprietary bullshit and uses generic protocols, and reportedly works fine on Linux.
Might have to consider it after all…
You had my attention, now you have my interest
I love mine, especially that I could custom fit lenses, so I don’t need to wear glasses. Because that will damage the internal lenses over time.
It’s great! Mine is five years old and still working just fine.
I have needed to replace the cable (was getting weird green static), but that was really easy to do myself and Valve directly sells replacements.
Also my right speaker is a bit loose so I have to adjust it occasionally during gameplay.
Otherwise it’s been solid. Easy recommendation.
Vr is still very much gimmicky. Once the novelty wears off it’s pretty meh
They barely did Steam Link (the little physical streaming box from like 2015) and ended production quickly and the remaining units were heavily discounted, and they still send updates for it.
It’s one of many reasons I like Steam and have moved more towards Steam gaming and away from Playstation.
Steam link moved beyond its hardware quickly.
The link hardware is no longer required.
AppleTV, nvidia shield, chromecast ultra, he’ll even LG webos all have apps for streaming stream games.
They discontinued the hardware because it’s no longer needed.
In fact, when I switched to my appleTV for steam, it became even better quality and less dropped frames. It also seems to be lower latency.
It’s absolutely needed. I don’t have any other practical way to stream from my PC to my TV. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a new dedicated Steam Link box for any streaming above 1080p.
The app only works so well and only on specific devices, and I just don’t have any simple plug and play answers that’ll work for me.
There’s absolutely a use case and market for Valve to bring it back. I still use mine a lot.
Buy an appletv or one other compatible devices
I think she means it will be unpopular, unknown, or not relevant. I am a gamer with a Steam Deck and I had no idea what the Index was or that it even existed until just now when you mentioned it here.
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In way way did valve stop supporting streaming? Did they mean in-home game, remote play, friend remote play?
I think they mean how they stopped selling Steam Link devices. They still support the software side of streaming, they just don’t sell dedicated hardware for it anymore.
Didn’t they stop selling the hardware because most users already have a phone, computer, or TV which can run the Steam Link app?
I think that’s the logic behind it, but I get better stream quality using the dedicated box vs the app. Plus, can’t do the Moonlight thing over the app, as far as I’m aware.
I guess it’s very dependent on what you’re running the app on, and what else that device is running
You’re aware that there are Moonlight apps for these platforms, too right?
Nope! Good to know should the steamlink crap out tho
Ngl I really love the Steamlink. I loaded Moonlight on it and it lets me play Xbox gamepass games on the couch from the PC too.
You gotta either hardwire it with ethernet cables or set it to run on dedicated wifi channels to get a good stream quality, though, and it’s better suited for turn-based games, though I’ve played plenty of platformers and shooters on it too.
I really like the steam link in theory, but I had too much trouble getting a reliably good picture quality through it.
I used Google Stadia for awhile before it died, and it had better video quality when streaming games over the internet to a wifi connected chromecast. I even ran ethernet drops through my house to get my PC>router>Steam link connections hardwired, and it still had worse streaming quality than Stadia.
Had a link in college, it worked perfectly on our 5GHz network and let anyone play their PC games in the living room. Many hours of Ultimate Chicken Horse were played!
When I got it I wasn’t sure why exactly. I have fast PCs, and my Switch is under a mountain of dust too. Now It’s one of my favorite machines. So versatile. My wife hates sitting at her desk for gaming so it has reignited her passion for it. And it gets me out of my office so we can hang out more when we’re winding down after a day.
I sometimes use a steamdeck out and about but most of the time I use it at home streaming my desktop using sunshine/moonlight. I don’t notice the lag, just enjoy the high quality visuals and extended battery. You can even use wake on lan to wake up your PC from moonlight on the steam deck.
Man, moonlight/sunshine was a gamechanger for my PC, I can play on my TV then on my phone then on my desktop, it’s awesome!
Is this better than steams built in streaming system?
Honest question, never used anything else
Actually I don’t own a Deck, though if it’s similar to Steam Link on PC I’d say moonlight let’s me tweak a little bit more stuff like bandwidth and allows for up to 120fps on all my client devices.
The setup process for moonlight/sunshine is pretty easy so I’d say give it a shot.
Thanks. I’ll look into it, I’ve got plans to repurpose an old wiiu into a deck-like couch gaming machine.
Right now my wife is using the Deck pretty heavily, so I’m using steam to stream a game to my old Chromebook, it’s working pretty well actually 🤷♂️
I like that she came around. It’s really nice to be able to game anywhere and some games are just better on a handheld.
How can a game just be better on a handheld? That sounds highly subjective.
Yeah, you’re not wrong about it being subjective. I certainly never intended to speak for every denizen of the multiverse.
There are just a lot of games, like Balatro for example, that just don’t compel me on PC.
That’s fair. My Steam Deck doesn’t get much use, so I was wondering if there was some angle I wasn’t considering.
It is subjective, and I agree almost every game is better on a handheld. Even when I have the option to play on my gaming PC at the desk or on the TV, I’ll play on Steam Deck or stream to Steam Deck just for the handheld experience.
I’ve even gotten to the point of playing some RTS games on it with a lot of customized controller profile stuff. It’s very intimate and comfortable and looks nice.
