Mozilla is “extremely disappointed.”

Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.

For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.

Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.

Source: https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/

  • LWD@lemm.ee
    129·
    9 months ago

    Not sure if it’s a fallacy if it’s about addressing people who have spent a ton on an ecosystem and can’t just devote more money to buy the alternative and time to figure out the parts that aren’t compatible

    • SupraMario@lemmy.world
      25·
      9 months ago

      What parts aren’t compatible? And you can load Linux and Windows on all Mac’s. You can also sell your iPhone and buy an android phone with money left over… getting out of the apple closed ecosystem is cheaper than sticking with it.

      • NateNate60@lemmy.world
        71·
        9 months ago

        For most people, time is not regarded to be free (i.e. not a cost). As a devoted Linux user, the adage that “Linux is only free if you don’t value your time” is absolutely true.

          • NateNate60@lemmy.world
            51·
            9 months ago

            Learning Windows is still a time cost. You’re also losing your library of Mac software and quite a few interoperability features between your other Apple products.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.world
              33·
              9 months ago

              ??? So you’re plan is to just say fuck it, and continue to be fucked over by apple? The fuck logic is that? Almost all software has a replacement in windows/Linux. I work in all 3 ecosystems, there is very little that lacks an alternative in each os. Sticking to osx/iOS is just a cop out.

              • NateNate60@lemmy.world
                61·
                9 months ago

                No. My argument is that if Apple isn’t going to open up their ecosystem to genuine competition and genuine interoperability then they need to have their hand forced through regulation.

                Telling people to just stop buying Apple products is a lazy, knee-jerk self-righteous response that ignores the realities of platform lock-in.

                  • NateNate60@lemmy.world
                    4·
                    9 months ago

                    You seem to think that regulation doesn’t work. Luckily, we have a test case set up for us in real-life.

                    In the United States, consumers relied on voting with their wallets. In the European Union, regulatory agencies forced Apple to take pro-consumer moves through regulation.

                    Now take a look at which approach produced results and which approach left consumers continuing to complain about the lack of interoperability and the lack of competition in Apple’s walled garden.

              • deranger@sh.itjust.works
                41·
                9 months ago

                You’re incorrect. Tons of apps are native ARM on Mac now, also rosetta2 emulation is really fast. Obviously not as fast as native ARM but it surprised me.

                • SupraMario@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  Most might be native but tell me what apps don’t have an alternative on x86 and I’ll agree with you.

                  • deranger@sh.itjust.works
                    2·
                    9 months ago

                    Exclusivity isn’t the point. A healthy app ecosystem is what we’re discussing, which ARM on Mac has. It wasn’t great for 6 months or so, but it’s quite good now.

              • NateNate60@lemmy.world
                2·
                9 months ago

                I’m not the parent commenter, but Apple Silicon has much wider app support than ARM on Windows. There’s also Rosetta, which works alright, I suppose. Not spectacularly and usually not anywhere near native performance but it’s at least okay.

      • LWD@lemm.ee
        31·
        9 months ago

        You can’t refund anything that’s not physical, for one…