It’s a free-to-play mobile gacha game. Therefore, it is trash. That point simply cannot be argued. It’s not up for debate. If you’re here to debate that point, please don’t even bother. All mobile games are trash. All free-to-play games are trash. All gacha games are trash. Again: there is no debate about that.

Having gotten that out of the way: why are so many people under the false impression that this SPECIFIC trash game is somehow more than trash?

Does it have particularly sexy anime girls? Particularly sexy anime prettyboys? Cool mechs or something? Does it very sadly contain core elements of gameplay that would be fun in a non-trash setting?

Help me out, here.

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    I don’t have to play any mobile F2P gacha games, in order to know that they’re trash. That whole category of “games” is morally and ethically unacceptable.

    Individuals can like whatever they want, but that doesn’t change the moral and ethical implications. It is never okay to associate with gacha games, on any level.

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      I don’t have to play any mobile F2P gacha games, in order to know that they’re trash.

      This is confusing knowledge with bias.
      It sounds more like you’re prejudiced against such games so you assume they’re all trash.

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        I’m prejudiced against gacha games in the same way that I’m prejudiced against slavery, murder, kidnapping, rape, etc. These are all things that are unethical and immoral. We SHOULD be prejudiced against things that are unethical and immoral. That’s how being a good person works.

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      I don’t have to play any mobile F2P gacha games, in order to know that they’re trash.

      You do, actually. That’s kinda the entire point of what I just said.

      It is never okay to associate with gacha games, on any level.

      Another strange confusion between “opinion” and “fact”. Maybe you don’t like gacha games; that’s fine, but other people love them, and some of them probably think whatever indie arthouse gamejam game or whatever you find superior is actually trash.

      People can spend their time and money however they want to. The fact that it seems to bother you is something that perhaps you may want to reflect upon, maybe isolate whatever insecurity you have that’s causing this sort of disproportional reaction from you.

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        What other blatantly unethical shit are you into? Slavery? Dumping radioactive and chemical waste into nature preserves? Do you have to see all examples of that shit on a case-by-case basis, to see if you’re cool with it?

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          You’ve yet to articulate what’s unethical. You can’t just say “it’s bad because I say so” and expect anybody to be onboard. Use your words and show us that you actually understand the things you’re talking about. Because so far, it really seems more like you’re just trying to show off how enlightened you are for not liking a popular thing, and less like something you actually fully comprehend or actually care about in the first place.

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            You’ve yet to articulate what’s unethical

            Getting. People. Addicted. To. Fucking. Gambling. And. Taking. Their. Fucking. Money.

            That’s the goddamned unethical part, chief.

            I mean, are you fucking serious? I had to spell that shit out for you, word for fucking word? I can’t even figure out the degree to which you’re fucking gaslighting me. Which is the point, I suppose. Congratulations.

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              Funny story, my partner sent me a gacha game and I have yet to spend a dime. I play for maybe 20 minutes a week. If someone is unable to control their spending on make-believe prizes, then they have underlying issues they need to work out.

              Your assertion that gacha = slavery is about the most ridiculous thing I’ve read all day, and I had to open Twitter.

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              So, you may have known this if you played the game or perhaps even spent two minutes researching the thing you’re pretending to be an expert on, but you don’t have to spend money on the game. Like, at all. And other people spending money on the game doesn’t impact you, as a player, because there is no multiplayer.

              Anyway, thanks for the live demonstration of my point about informed opinions and such. This concludes the “ridicule” portion, now begins “dismiss”.

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                other people spending money on the game doesn’t impact you

                So you’re just confirming that you’re a psychopath/sociopath.

                I care about other people, EVEN IF THEIR SUFFERING DOESN’T DIRECTLY AFFECT ME.

                I realize this is a completely foreign concept to you, so I’ll try to explain it in very simple terms, one final time:

                I am not going to support a game with a gambling-based structure, because I care about other humans. I refuse to support unethical developers who are exploiting gambling addicts. That’s completely separate from whether I’m going to spend money on the game myself, or whether I’m theoretically able to get everything I want from the game, without the gambling ever affecting me.

                Again, I realize that your neurology isn’t correctly configured to experience empathy. You can’t be fixed.

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                  Your points would carry more weight if you weren’t so obnoxiously condescending. You write like a high schooler who is baselessly confident that they’re smarter than everyone they talk to because they read a few headlines.

                  Take it down a notch, buddy boy. Your hyperbole just makes you look like an idiot

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                    Yeah, I realize that. I just strongly dislike admitting I’m wrong, especially to people who are, like, cartoonishly wrong themselves.

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                  So you’re just confirming that you’re a psychopath/sociopath.

                  I like how you had to use both terms because you don’t actually know which one is accurate for the absolute fivehead accusations you’re making. Another amazing conclusion from the World’s Smartest Man.

                  FYI, psychopathy and sociopathy aren’t remotely the same thing. Please, quit taking about things you don’t understand, it’s becoming a bad habit at this point. Literally nobody here is fooled by it and you’re only embarrassing yourself.

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                    Oh, so I’m supposed to know EXACTLY which kind of reptilian monster you are?

                    Doesn’t matter to me. You’re not a human. You’re an unfeeling beast, without the emotional capacity to care for other people. You’ve admitted that much, and that’s all I need to know. Everything else you’ve said makes total sense, now.

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                  So a guy registered on lemmynsfw, an instance whose users have been known to post exploitative pictures, is bitching about… gacha games. Oh wow. Wow.