I set it to debug at somepoint and forgot maybe? Idk, but why the heck does the default config of the official Docker is to keep all logs, forever, in a single file woth no rotation?
Feels like 101 of log files. Anyway, this explains why my storage recipt grew slowly but unexpectedly.
Wow, thanks for the heads up! I use Nextcloud AIO and backups take VERY long. I need to check about those logs!
Don’t know if I’m just lucky or what, but it’s been working really well for me and takes good care of itself for the most part. I’m a little shocked seeing so many complaints in this thread because elsewhere on the Internet that’s the go-to method.
for some helpful config, the below is the logging config I have and logs have never been an issue.
You can even add
'logfile' => '/some/location/nextcloud.log',to get the logs in a different place'logtimezone' => 'UTC', 'logdateformat' => 'Y-m-d H:i:s', 'loglevel' => 2, 'log_rotate_size' => 52428800,You should always setup logrotate. Yes the good old Linux logrotate…
I don’t disagree that logrotate is a sensible answer here, but making that the responsibility of the user is silly.
Are you crazy? I understand that we are used to dumbed down stuff, but come on…
Rotating logs is in the ABC of any sysadmin, even before backups.
First, secure your ssh logins, then secure your logs, then your fail2ban then your backups…
To me, that’s in the basic stuff you must always ensure.
Those should also all be secure by default. What is this, Windows?
Just basic checks I prefer to ensure, not leave to distribution good faith. If all is set, good to go. Otherwise, fix and move on.
Specially with self hosted stuff that is a bit more custom than the usual.
We should each not have to configure log rotation for every individual service. That would require identify what and how it logs data in the first place, then implementing a logrotate config. Services should include a reasonable default in logrotate.d as part of their install package.
Agreed, but going container route those nice basic practices are dead.
And also, being mextcloud a php service, of can’t by definition ship with a logrotate config too, because its never packaged by your repo.
The fact (IMHO) is that the logs shouldn’t be there, in a persistent volume.
Ideally yes, but I’ve had to do this regularly for many services developed both in-house and out of house.
Solve problems, and maybe share your work if you like, I think we all appreciate it.
Imho it’s because docker does away with (abstracts?) many years of sane system administration principles (like managing logfile rotations) that you are used to when you deploy bare metal on a Debian box. It’s a brave new world.
It’s because with docker you don’t need to do log files. Logging should be to stdout, and you let the host, orchestration framework, or whoever is running the container so logs however they want to. The container should not be writing log files in the first place, containers should be immutable except for core application logic.
Good point!
Or you can use Podman, which integrates nicely with Systemd and also utilizes all the regular system means to deal with log files and so on.
Good suggestion, although I do feel it always comes back to this “many ways to do kind of the same thing” that surrounds the Linux ecosystem. Docker, podman, … some claim it’s better, I hear others say it’s not 100% compatible all the time. My point being more fragmentation.
Everything I hear about Nextcloud scares me away from messing with it.
I stopped using Nextcloud a couple of years ago after it corrupted my encrypted storage. I’m giving it a try again because of political emergency. But we sure need a long term replacement. Written in Rust or some other sane language.
Just use the official Docker AIO and it is very, very little trouble. It’s by far the easiest way to use Nextcloud and the related services like Collabora and Talk.
The price rboem is that the log file is inside the container in the www folder
If you only use it for files, the only thing it’s good for imho. it’s awesome! :)
Reminds me of when my Jellyfin container kept growing its log because of something watchtower related. Think it ended up at 100GB before I noticed. Not even debug, just failed updates I think. It’s been a couple of months.
101 of log files
is to configure it yourself
