• RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    From my reply to another

    "Ok? How does that change my statement that they are a different kind of fascist? Keep in mind my point is entirely focused on the ideology part of the political ideology whereas you are talking about a salute. How does an arm motion change the policy goals which aren’t the same as what Nazis support? What policy goal can you derive from an arm motion to begin with?

    They are still evil they are just a different kind of evil. Not all fascists are nazis. The fact that one guy did a nazi salute twice doesn’t change project 2025 into something that Nazis would support."

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      3 days ago

      Taxonomy.

      • A cat is [animal]
      • A dog is an [animal]

      The nazi’s did such a good job of distinguishing themselves they created their own (colloquial) taxonomic branch.

      So [nazi] could be considered a parent grouping of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party and also potentially a parent grouping for the republicans.

      I think they key here is separating the nazi party from the [nazi] category

      As you pointed out all [nazi]'s are [fascist]'s but not all [fascist]'s are [nazi]'s

      • National Socialist German Workers’ Party were [nazi]'s
      • The American Republican Party are subjectively showing enough similarities (both in type and progression) that they get the provisional label of [nazi] as it’s the closest existing definition.

      Might turn out that they don’t quite fall in the same branch, might turn out they do. Until then [nazi] is an easy shortcut for describing the types of behaviour displayed.

      Even if they were just a direct descendent ( taxonomically ) rather than a sibling of the original nazi party there would still be an argument to claim they were nazi’s

      Like :

      • animal -> mammal -> cat
      • nazi -> nazi party -> republican

      Come back in a few years and you’ll probably get your definitive answer either way.

      You don’t have to agree with any of that of course, but it does demonstrate how someone might have an opposing opinion to your own.