The indoctrination of windows is extreme. Windows is just as hard as linux, harder even with all the layers of obscurity.

And yet… linux is hard, and users decry RTFM as “not growing the userbase”

  • Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    3 days ago

    Aaaand why is that? It’s hard to read because…?

    We need individuals like you to help it out. It’s like wikipedia

    • rumba@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      40
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      It’s hard to read because people lack background knowledge. Man pages were horrible for my first 15 years or so.

      Once you have the skills that you hardly need to read them they’re fine.

      That’s why everyone wants to look it up on stack exchange, they want the answer, not an unending series of lessons

      • something_random_tho@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        Man pages are still not great on Linux. Very few examples with common use-cases and explanations. I shouldn’t need to visit the Arch wiki.

        OpenBSD man pages are a delight in comparison, and really all you need to learn how to manage the system.

    • JollyG@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      3 days ago

      They are hard to read because they are written to explain concepts to people who already understand them. Handy if you just need them for reference. Useless if you are trying to learn. Which is why RTFM is often bad advice

    • RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 days ago

      It’s hard to read because it’s a manual made for technical users.

      On Linux most of the software is made by freelance developers who often forget that all users are not technical and even if they are they don’t want to be forced to interact with technical stuff. For the same reason I don’t want to daily-drive gentoo, sometimes I don’t want to read the manual.

      I happen to be a contributor on multiple FOSS project and most didn’t have a docs directory in their repo or website, let alone an user guide. That’s fine for a CLI program to rely on wiki/manuals but graphical apps should have a user guide on their website. Working on documentation is a thankless job in FOSS spaces.