• petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    we should be more precise with our language

    I swear this exact phrase is an FBI plot to get people to doubt everything they see and hear.

    “That school shooter was a nazi” “Well, we ought to be careful when saying things like that.”
    “Elon Musk is a nazi.” “And what has he done exactly? You know, it’s important to be precise. The story of the boy who cried wolf is that …”
    “Hitler was a nazi.” “Well, he was in charge of the nazis. Specificity is really important when handling delicate matters like these, you know.”

    Not to pick on you specifically, but I am so fucking tired of hearing it.

    • erin (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 year ago

      I totally get that, but there’s a big difference between “this guy did a Nazi salute” or “this guy idolized Hitler” and “this guy worked with anti-semites.” I don’t think we should be using the word Nazi to mean “racist person,” as Nazi is pretty specific. I certainly hope I don’t come across as making any of the above arguments. Ford was a Nazi. Elon is a Nazi. I haven’t seen evidence suggesting Disney is the same, and I think it would be irresponsible to turn Nazi into a generic pejorative for “bigot.”

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        1 year ago

        To be clear, I have no idea what Walt is or isn’t. I’m not making a claim there, haha.

        it would be irresponsible to turn Nazi into a generic pejorative for “bigot.”

        I agree… especially if we’re talking about historical figures who might be pretty far removed from the modern political climate.

        But to be fair, there is a pretty direct connection between bigotry and nazis, modern or otherwise.

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        but there’s a big difference between “this guy did a Nazi salute” or “this guy idolized Hitler” and “this guy worked with anti-semites.”

        Umm… Is there?

        If you’re sitting at a table with 9 Nazis, then that’s a table of 10 Nazis.

        • erin (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          1 year ago

          I (a Jewish person) draw a distinction between antisemitism and Nazism. Nazis aren’t just racist, they’re fascist, with a specific set of beliefs. All I can verify is that Disney associated with racists in Hollywood willingly. I find it hard to believe that if Disney was a Nazi sympathizer, he would’ve produced so many anti-Nazi propaganda films. To give a good analogy, someone might be racist towards Palestinians and Arab people without being Zionist. That’s a more specific belief that includes racism.