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      I would argue a certain segment of Europeans are even more propagandized than the average USian. At least in the US, for one reason or another (usually political tribalism), a lot of people mistrust their government, and to a lesser extent, their media. People in Europe still have way too much faith in their bourgeois institutions.

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        It is a weird thing in the US, cause you have people who sorta act like:

        • If the democrats are in power (the government is terrible, omg, it’s so so terrible, we have to get them out of office)

        • If the republicans are in power (omg I love government now, look at how they’re sticking it to the libs)

        And to some extent, the reverse of that as well. These days I think more are getting frustrated with the gov in general, but you still have some of those loyalists who act like it’s the “wrong side” that is the problem with governance, not the system as a whole.

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    The genocide in Gaza has really demolished the narrative about one going on in China. Because we all know what a real genocide looks like now, if the Chinese were doing somethuing similiar they wouldn’t be able to hide it.

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      I wish this was the case. I just had a coworker bring up the Uyghur “genocide” as evidence about how bad China is last Friday.

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        I’m travelling and it constantly comes up. The fact that I’ve been there, spoken to Uyghurs, and they’ve either laughed or been straight up horrified at the western narrative is apparently not evidence enough to convince most westerners. There have been exceptions, like this sweet but naive couple from Canada who’s world view my girlfriend and I were able to completely change over the course of a couple of weeks.

        I think for most they’ve convinced themselves, with the aid of a huge amount of propaganda in the form of news and TV/movies, that the west are the good guys. The thought that anything else could be the case is simply impossible to contemplate, as it would utterly shatter their world view and morals

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      User instance is too on the nose. Anyways, unlimited death on IDF soldiers. Every dead IDF troop is a fresh beer!

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        Zionism is deeply antisemitic against jewish peoples too; for Zionists the only valid Jew is the fascist one and thereby carries out one of the axioms of western imperialism - the only truly valid “minority” is the fascist one (see for example, the erasure of communist ukrainians for fascist ones, communist Indonesians for fascist ones, and same for other East Europeans, South Americans etc)

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          the only truly valid “minority” is the fascist one (see for example, the erasure of communist ukrainians for fascist ones, communist Indonesians for fascist ones, and same for other East Europeans, South Americans etc)

          I have also seen that there is an erasure and persecution of communist parties(Ukraine for example) for less effective ones(Trotskyst, Maoist and other pro imperialist ultra left deviations). It is an interesting trend to mention beside the state openly favoring fascist ones.

          There was one in Ukraine who went with the liberal “both sides bad” of the conflict -> http://www.solidnet.org/article/23rd-IMCWP-Contribution-by-Union-of-Communists-of-Ukraine/

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            I care not for the uniform but the content; it is why I do not consider “Western Marxists” of various stripes, locations and ethnicities as communists.