• NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Was Native American raids on “Settlements” terrorism? Was Nat Turner’s rebellion terrorism?

    Hamas is evil and the acts they have done are evil. But they weren’t created in a vacuum. Peace and a one or two state solution needs to be agreed apone by all with a right to self determination for the cycle of evil to stop.

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      11 months ago

      Do you like this group of people? If yes, freedom fighters; if not, terrorists

      Do you like this state? If yes, government; if not, regime.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t like Hamas. They are nothing more than bigoted murderers. But they are created from a system of hate. This isn’t an argument of viewpoint. It’s just facts

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          11 months ago

          What’s bigoted about them? They want to kill their oppressors they don’t care about race or religion.

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              11 months ago

              There’s a church in Gaza full of CHRISTIANS that was shot by who again two days ago? Was it Hamas? Oh no it was the IDF!

              Because Hamas fights against oppressive Nazis not people of a different religion.

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                11 months ago

                Because the IDF commits war crimes Hamas is not a theocratic dictatorial regime? How did you manage to infer the one from the other?

                I’ll readily grant Hamas that it doesn’t oppress Christians more than it oppresses Muslims. They’re still oppressors, though.

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                  11 months ago

                  When you call the guys committing literal genocide and the Americans backing them the “freedom fighters defending human rights” and the natives resisting genocide “the bigoted oppressors”.

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      11 months ago

      Native American militias didn’t brutalise Native Americans, much unlike Hamas does to Palestinians.

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        11 months ago

        This is simply not true. Plenty of natives fought against other natives, whether independently, or with US troops, or for bounties.

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          11 months ago

          Those were generally clashes between different tribes. Hamas is doing internal political oppression, brutalising political opponents etc.

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        11 months ago

        Uhhhhhh one there was definitely infighting amongst the various tribes. Even during colonial expansion. Two Hamas is doing exactly what the IDF and Israelis government pays them to do.

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          Uhhhhhh one there was definitely infighting amongst the various tribes.

          Irrelevant because Gaza is not different tribes, thus I ignored it. But I bet you felt smart typing that.

          Two Hamas is doing exactly what the IDF and Israelis government pays them to do.

          Quite an edgelord take but yes they’re oppressing Palestinians, and killed a lot of Israeli leftists, hippie Kibbutz type people actually helping people in Gaza, in their attacks, Kahanites certainly don’t mind that. I don’t think Israel was planning on Hamas having a shot at the Israeli-Saudi rapprochement, though.