My Dad taught me that as a kid. I’m extremely supportive of wait staff, and I’m an excellent tipper (25% is not unusual), but I’m not tipping on tax. I draw the line there.
Probably nothing, but it just makes sense to tip on the actual bill. Why am I tipping the government tax?
So now I have to figure the 25% tip before tax, then the 22% after tax, then decide which I want to pay, etc. Just tip on the pretax amount. Why is that controversial? How is that “losing rationality?”
Why does this require any discussion? You want to pay a tip on the tax, go wild. I’ve used my method for decades, and my servers get tipped well. I don’t think I’ve lost any rationality.
Makes me wonder how many servers out their think their customers are being cheap because they only tipped X% when in reality they actually tipped 15% or whatever before tax.
I got chewed out on reddit once for being “cheap” because I said tip before the tax. Guy was super pissed over what amounts to a difference of cents. Went off on a huge rant belittling me like I admitted to murdering puppies…
Like… Dude, if your whole life comes crashing down over 40¢, to the point that’s your reaction, maybe there’s a much bigger problem going on here?
I don’t care what people think, I’m still doing 10% for okay, 15% for good, and 20% for great.
It’s not my job to give servers a raise. The food prices have already exploded, they are already getting more in tips just because the base cost went up
My $10 meal and 15% tip ($1.50) is now a $15 meal with a 15% tip ($2.25) which would have been a 22.5% at previous prices. They already come out ahead in that scenario without tip percentages increasing.
Your logic is inverted. The lines would have to have a place for folks to add in the taxes. Otherwise the math would work in the opposite direction – the calculated amounts would be lower than the amounts based on the number at the bottom. (Unless a discount was applied that’s not shown.)
I’m not sure what you’re saying. But to expand on my point:
A lot of receipts have an area where they show you a “calculated tip” for some %s. Many restaurants calculate the tips using the total (meal+tax) rather than the subtotal (meal).
On those receipts the person still has to calculate the end amount (meal+tax+tip).
I’m surprised no one mentioned that a lot also calculate the tip after applying taxes.
Example: Meal was $40, then a 20% tip would be $8. But if taxes were $4 (making the total bill $44), then the receipt would show $8.80.
I don’t tip on tax.
But on the flip side if I receive a discount of some sort, I tip on the pre-discount amount.
My Dad taught me that as a kid. I’m extremely supportive of wait staff, and I’m an excellent tipper (25% is not unusual), but I’m not tipping on tax. I draw the line there.
How is that different than tipping 22% (or whatever) on the post-tax? I swear people lose all rationality when it comes to tips.
Probably nothing, but it just makes sense to tip on the actual bill. Why am I tipping the government tax?
So now I have to figure the 25% tip before tax, then the 22% after tax, then decide which I want to pay, etc. Just tip on the pretax amount. Why is that controversial? How is that “losing rationality?”
Why does this require any discussion? You want to pay a tip on the tax, go wild. I’ve used my method for decades, and my servers get tipped well. I don’t think I’ve lost any rationality.
Makes me wonder how many servers out their think their customers are being cheap because they only tipped X% when in reality they actually tipped 15% or whatever before tax.
I got chewed out on reddit once for being “cheap” because I said tip before the tax. Guy was super pissed over what amounts to a difference of cents. Went off on a huge rant belittling me like I admitted to murdering puppies…
Like… Dude, if your whole life comes crashing down over 40¢, to the point that’s your reaction, maybe there’s a much bigger problem going on here?
Yeah, you shouldn’t tip on the tax, that has nothing to do with the food or service.
Just playing devil’s advocate but that’s 0.40 to you, but to a server who might wait on 100 people a week, that’s $40.
Sorry to inform you, but I’ve been told recently that 20% is now considered bare minimum and cheap. Yes, I eat out a lot less accordingly.
I don’t care what people think, I’m still doing 10% for okay, 15% for good, and 20% for great.
It’s not my job to give servers a raise. The food prices have already exploded, they are already getting more in tips just because the base cost went up
My $10 meal and 15% tip ($1.50) is now a $15 meal with a 15% tip ($2.25) which would have been a 22.5% at previous prices. They already come out ahead in that scenario without tip percentages increasing.
Which is insane, it’s a percentage, compensation for inflation is baked in.
Your logic is inverted. The lines would have to have a place for folks to add in the taxes. Otherwise the math would work in the opposite direction – the calculated amounts would be lower than the amounts based on the number at the bottom. (Unless a discount was applied that’s not shown.)
I’m not sure what you’re saying. But to expand on my point:
A lot of receipts have an area where they show you a “calculated tip” for some %s. Many restaurants calculate the tips using the total (meal+tax) rather than the subtotal (meal).
On those receipts the person still has to calculate the end amount (meal+tax+tip).