I can literally open up the development console and manually click an ad, and delete it. Am I now hacking and sabotaging a protected program?
WTF is this for nonsense, what mental gymnastics…?
I just increased the font size on their website. By "their logic, I should be sued as well :D
Yes.
police knocking on your door
This is grounded in the assertion that a website’s HTML/CSS is a protected computer program that an ad blocker intervenes in the in-memory execution structures (DOM, CSSOM, rendering tree), this constituting unlawful reproduction and modification.
This would also ban Dark Mode features and extensions.
This would ban most of computing tbh
This is grounded in the assertion that a website’s HTML/CSS is a protected computer program that an ad blocker intervenes in the in-memory execution structures (DOM, CSSOM, rendering tree), this constituting unlawful reproduction and modification.
This is ridiculous… the in-memory structures are highly browser dependent, the browser is the one controlling how the DOM is represented in memory… it would imply that opening the website AT ALL in a different version of the exact specific one they target or with a different set of specific features/settings would also be a violation, since the memory structure would likely be different too.
At that point, they might as well just ask for their website to not be visited at all.
By that same logic I could claim that SHOWING me an ad by circumventing my ad blocker is interfering with the in memory execution of my ad blocker. Wtf.
or mandate which program can be used to access the page.
like an app.
Time to outright disable Javascript in my browsers and just deal with the broken sites and generally less useful web.
You may take a look at DNS filtering solutions like Pi-Hole or AdGuardHome [1]. It blocks ads / trackers without directly interacting with website content.
[1] https://www.privacyguides.org/en/dns/#self-hosted-dns-filtering
I’m aware, and I run a couple of Pi-hole VMs at home. The issue is DNS adblocking is only effective as long as the ads and the legit content don’t come from the same domain.
I wonder why all these totally unrelated things in the world are going to shit? Maybe theres a common thread
Capitalism baby!
People still look at me like I’m some sort of conspiracy theorist when I say that it’s all connected back to capitalism
A friend of mine recently called me more brainwashed than anyone for questioning capitalism and said how can I question a system that gives me bread and butter.
When I tried to point out that the system does not give me food by the goodness of it’s heart but rather extracts something out of me in return, he pointed out that Milton Friedman was a staunch supporter of capitalism and there is no way I can know more than him.
But the truth is, the world is crumbling. And I had rather believe what is unfolding before my own eyes than an economics textbook from 1970s (not to mention, that unlike say math economics isn’t that objective a field. Just like he purported a free market supporting Economist, I too can forward names of folks who support the opposite POV).
The day folks stop seeing themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires would be awakening.
Milton Friedman was a staunch supporter of capitalism and there is no way I can know more than him.
Einstein supported socialism. You think you’re smarter than Einstein???
Is there any hope of asking when the most prosperous period of the USA was and what economic policies were used to create those conditions? Keynesian policies during the new deal - which are a tad different from MF’s.
Easily the 90s when Clinton wiped the USA debt away to a clean slate, and Bush immediately made it worse with Iraq in his next term. I’m speaking loosley, but assume that’s when this all started based on your question.
Most people are just in denial. The left has been calling out capitalism as the problem for over a century
There was just a decent period in the middle there for the west that put a lot of people into complacency, but finally we’re starting to approach the logical conclusions of capitalism again, and it’s all coming crashing down
Unfortunately I strongly believe that things are going to get much worse before they get better. I think the vast majority will need to be shocked into action
I sadly think you are right. On a positive note, we do win on a long enough time line. It’s inevitable.
Yeah as if things happening in US isn’t chaotic enough. I wonder if that send signal to the world that it’s okay to be suppress all rights suddenly
The news is about to report on another US approved massacre in gaza, quick someone file a new form to spy on person communications, get that money transferred we said we didn’t have and for the love of god get some children in here we’re getting hungry.
Black mirror 15 Million Merits
And this…
…in a nutshell is US patent US8246454B2. Sony owns the rights since 2009 but has not implemented it. When the permit expires in 2030, it will basically be open for other companies to use
2030? That’s AGES awa- oh
“The EU recognizes the right of users to choose what content they receive, including the ability to block unwanted advertising.”
what happened to our privacy rights? Are they being dismantled in order for giant tech companies to take a foothold in controlling the masses? I mean that’s what we get when we elect a self-proclaimed “transatlantist” chancellor. Fuck Merz and his blackrock cronies
The case stems from online media company Axel Springer’s lawsuit against Eyeo - the maker of the popular Adblock Plus browser extension.
Axel Springer says that ad blockers threaten its revenue generation model and frames website execution inside web browsers as a copyright violation.
FYI, Axel Springer is a company and owns Business Insider (since 2015), Politico, and Politico Europe (since 2021). They suck.
Gudrun Kruip, a scholar associated with the Stiftung Bundespräsident-Theodor-Heuss-Haus, has claimed that Axel Springer SE, along with its subsidiaries, exhibits a pro-American stance, often omitting criticism of US foreign policy.[58] This observation is then backed by allegations made by two former CIA officers in an interview with The Nation, claiming that Axel Springer received $7 million from the CIA.[59] The purpose of this funding, they allege, was to influence the publisher to align its editorial content with American geopolitical interests.[59]
As of 2001, the Axel Springer SE names “solidarity with the libertarian values of the United States of America” as one of its core principles on its website.[60] This explicit stance has led to critiques from scholars and independent observers regarding the company’s perceived alignment with American interests.[58][61][62][63][64] Furthermore, an article in Foreign Policy has critiqued Axel Springer SE for a history of compromising journalistic ethics to support right-wing causes, implying a longstanding pattern of bias in its publications.[65]
Axel Springer company is even worse, their CEO said a year ago that all east-germans are either fascist or communist and that their opinions are to be dismissed, basically stating us as second-class-citizen. He owns the most fakenews spewing tabloids in Germany, BILD and WELT If you want to pinpoint one person where hate and fakenews come from in central europe, Mathias Döpfner, CEO of Axel Springer SE, is the culprit.
Thank you for that information. Judging from Politco and Business Insider, they’re pretty good at masking their hate and propaganda. Meaning, they’re not as blatant as Fox News here in the states. Are they as shady about it for BLD and WELT?
Also this lawsuit has been ongoing for at least a decade iirc. Springer has been trying real hard.
I can’t understand this logic.
Assume as stated that a website is a copyrighted and protected. Sure, that means I can’t redistribute it to others without permission or a license. But I can’t see how me locally, privately modifying the site would be against the law. Should Crayola be sued because their crayons can be used to modify a copyrighted art piece? Is it illegal for me to watch a movie with a blue-light filter on because it modifies how the content is displayed?
Edit: After further thought, a stronger argument would be that it’s illegal (in some places) to bypass DRM protections. That’s because if I break DRM of some media (say, of a rented DVD) so that I can keep it forever, that would technically be illegal even if I never shared it with anybody else. So if a site tries to break ad blockers but an ad blocker works around that, that would be “breaking” DRM, therefore illegal. But I still find that to be an lacking argument.
I have DRM on my network, I manage my digital rights with an ad blocker. If you try and circumvent my digital right can I sue?
Using their logic, accessibility tools also violate copyright.
Applying your own CSS is theft! Verboten!
If Germany bans ad blockers and a German citizen or company becomes victim to a malicious advertisement, do they have a case against the German government or by extension Axel Springer?
It’s my computer.
Fuck you.
Internet advertising, spreading malware since the 90s. Barely do anything to hold digital advertisement networks accountable for what they distribute, not even copyright/fraudulent website cloning for servicing malware, but always ready to crack down on people trying to browse the internet more securely and always ready to make more money for the rich
Is it illegal for me to fast forward the previews at the beginning of my VHS too? WTF?
LOL they WANTED it to be!!
Yep and they made it that way on a lot of DVDs!
yes, beacon of democracy for europe right there.
Europe went from leader of internet freedom to
Stasi policeGestapo in a few months.Guess there’s a top down policy to implement Fascism across Europe soon, judging by the speed at which Europe is passing dracnonic internet control.
Among other things, Germany’s been quite strict about piracy, so they’ve been holding the L for a while now, and continue to do so…
That’s really unfair to Stasi. For all their problems they fought Nazis, not supported them.
That’s true I mixed them up with the Gestapo. My WW2 lingo is not up to date.
Its a preparation for war with russia. If journalism and free flow of information keeps existing, its hard to explain to people they should support such madness, so its time to silence everyone
Frankly, I don’t think so, the vast majority are not fans of Russia, especially after the invasion of Ukraine. Pretty much everyone is in agreement that Russia is a threat, and there’s no need for any media suppression for that
Are you enlisted yet?
There’s a big difference between not being a fan of Russia and wanting a cataclysmic war with them
Do you think that European countries want to go on an offensive war with Russia or something? No, the discussion has always been about a defensive one
If euros want a defensive war they can wait until they grow mold
Do you think that European countries want to go on an offensive war with Russia or something?
Yes, obviously.
No, the discussion has always been about a defensive one
“Defensive” in the “pre-emptive defence” sense
I think you have no idea what you are talking about
Ok. I think the same about you.