Recently, we merry mods have been noticing many-a-comments being in the report queue for perceived negativity (the aim of the community being to provide “a break from the incessant negativity and rage”). What actions should we do about these, if any? Do we need a newsome another-rule for this?
Here’s what I think: Some skepticism and scrutiny is always quite needed knowledge—especially against information that’s actually untrue/misleading—and any bars I can think of for removing negative comments would apply to reasonable skepticism as well. Thus, the mod team is asking y’all to drop some bars!
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Assorted examples of reported comments
Actually, you’ve missed the mark. It’s not whining about an advancement, it’s legitimate criticism of the US health industry. He’s just saying what we all know to be true which is that regardless of technological improvements, lifesaving care will continue to be ruinously expensive for those that are able to access it and gatekept from many others.
If you have a problem with comments like these undermining celebration of scientific progress, then maybe you should think about the structural political issues that lead people to disillusionment and cynicism rather than labeling people as conspiracy theorists.
You know “big red“ voted for Trump. It’s a cute story, but I hope he gets what he voted for In the end
It’s too bad that curing patients is not a sustainable business model. Even if this did work we would only ever see it developed if you had to take it twice a month for the rest of your life in order to survive.
Edit: sorry, I just noticed this is in Uplifting News. So, let’s be optimistic. Maybe global capitalism will collapse and governments will start trying to take care of people.
Nobody said anything about ICE, we’re talking about the military known for bombing weddings in multiple middle eastern countries and then bombing ambulances when they respond.
If you have the money to commit atrocities in a dozen countries at once, you have money to spare.
That’s .world for you; complaining about Reddit while trying to recreate it exactly
It’s very sad to see hype like this. They only had 30 enrolled, this was just a safety study, and while the data looks promising, there is certainly not enough statistical power, which is why there is no approval yet.
Shame on the BBC. If you are going to quote invesigators, you should state that they have paid consultancy deals with UniQure. The same two people were equally excited about a Roche therapy years ago…
But UniCure stock went up 200% today, which is the point.
Fwiw I offer no judgement here against either your desires or those or this community, just wondering if factually they are a match (e.g. there is no need imho for everyone to be positive all the time… except when commenting in this community, of course - it’s like if you want Thai food then you go to a Thai restaurant, not a fish and chips joint, you know what I mean?). And I am struggling to understand your point. I sorta already know what you mean about forced positivity, which I don’t think this community is necessarily about so much as an absence of negativity - and most especially schadenfreude.
Hrm, and what you describe about people pointing out that a story is bullshit, I have to agree with you there. It seems that rather a post should be removed rather than a sad rebuttal if the former contains misinformation. Sorry if I misunderstood this earlier. Otoh, two lefts do not make a right, and perhaps the rebuttal should likewise follow the rules of the community, just as the (hypothetical here) OP should have as well?
You are not stupid, or at least not more than myself:-P. Ultimately, most of us are wrong about something or another. That’s why it’s good to have a place to duck our heads into a place where we can discuss things - even about being wrong - without the negativity (and it is very much worth mentioning once again, especially the schadenfreude) that is so prevalent elsewhere.
Fwiw, I highly doubt that comments saying literally “hey this is complicated or bad actually” were those under discussion? Again, sorry if I misunderstood something here. I got the sense that it was more like “El0n Mu5k can suck my big fat d$#_” that do nothing to “strengthen the belief in humanity’s capacity for good”. THAT afaict is schadenfreude, even if it was offered as an attempted rebuttal to some post. The attempt of a commentor at the latter does not by itself excuse them from having to follow the same rules as the hypothetical poster?
So I think we ended up in agreement here. But again, perhaps either I or even both of us may have missed something here:-).
Okay, thanks. That’s fair, I guess that’s why OP made this post and why we’re talking, right? Yeah. I definitely mean forced positivity that we’re not supposed to question. I’m onboard with trying to remove schadenfreude though. It makes sense that there are people who just get a kick out of ruining things for people. That results in negativity and also misinformation sometimes too.
I guess that’s what OP is proposing, but they’re asking everyone for criteria to judge a post by for removing it. If I’m being heard and they did decide to allow discussion in the comments about what is or isn’t right about the post, yeah it would make sense to have that discussion also try to stay positive. Assuming people coming to the comments know to do that. As for how to keep a good tone over the internet when pointing something out, I don’t think I know how to. I can’t advocate for that because I tend to have pretty bad tone most of the time. But it seems like a sensible thing to require, you know, constructive criticism?
You’re right about the comments in question though. I saw the comment ahead of me talk about prohibiting “politics and orphan crushing machines” and needed more context. Maybe I shouldn’t have assumed they meant people who use the phrase “orphan crushing machine” to point out that a post isn’t really positive. That would be silly. I think I was projecting my experience with Reddit onto this community.
Yeah, I didn’t think you were far off. I wish I could give some better insight to OP though instead of just “here’s how I use the comm plz don’t ban me”
Your very desire to help aids in the restoration of my own faith in humanity (after I thought that Reddit had destroyed it all). I’m not joking - I really mean that. Such conversations on Reddit never ended well, but here on the Threadiverse they often (even if not always) do. I am glad that you are here, sharing your thoughts.:-) ☺️
well thanks. I’m trying to be less of the person I turned into towards the end of my stay on reddit. this place feels like a chance for social media to be okay again so I want to be better to it. thanks for being chill too and hearing me out 😊
Same -> I did not enjoy who Reddit was turning me into. It is possible to disagree and not be a jerk about it, but on Reddit even agreeing with someone nearly always turned into an argument.
Some spaces are like that here - namely news and politics - but then in the more niche spaces we get to be chill.:-)