AI “artists” and “creators” are the absolute fucking worst. Right up there with “influencers”. They neither either artists, nor creators. The AI is doing all the work while all that their skill-less asses had to do is type up a sentence in a command prompt. Sooooo creative!
A ten year old child can do that with no foreknowledge whatsoever.
The world would be much better off without their input.
I have used AI to ‘create’ art and music for entirely personal purposes. I shared some too with friends but that’s the extent of it. I would never call myself an artist or musician. People who do are delusional at best.
A ten year old child can do that with no foreknowledge whatsoever.
Yes, that’s the idea.
Anyone can now transmit ideas through your eyeballs, and that’s awesome.
They could also put in effort, and use the tool to finish a sketch they drew, or combine a render and a photograph, or simply rearrange and overwrite generated parts until it looks like what they imagined. How much labor can go into a text that communicates an idea, and still not be art?
At what point does a definition exclude Koyaanisqatsi?
My point is that it’s not art. That it is being called and considered such, is NOT awesome. It cheapens the craft that many spend their lives to perfect. And it dehumanizes the process.
Make all the slop you want. Just don’t call it art, and don’t call yourself an artist.
If I paint a landscape by hand, and generate one flower, does it stop being art?
The craft of Koyaanisqatsi was editing. People have recreated it using stock footage, as a complicated joke, and frankly the message still works. The whole original movie is an arrangement of uncoordinated b-roll. There are no actors. There is no dialog. Any individual part is almost meaningless, but the gestalt is an award-winning cultural touchstone.
Now figure out how to actually draw or paint it yourself using real pencils or pens on real paper, or paint on real canvas and report back how easy it is.
That’s not really comparable. I never claimed drawing/painting is easier, you’re hallucinating. I’m talking about the competition where generating something isn’t always easy.
AI “artists” and “creators” are the absolute fucking worst. Right up there with “influencers”. They neither either artists, nor creators. The AI is doing all the work while all that their skill-less asses had to do is type up a sentence in a command prompt. Sooooo creative!
A ten year old child can do that with no foreknowledge whatsoever.
The world would be much better off without their input.
I have used AI to ‘create’ art and music for entirely personal purposes. I shared some too with friends but that’s the extent of it. I would never call myself an artist or musician. People who do are delusional at best.
Yes, that’s the idea.
Anyone can now transmit ideas through your eyeballs, and that’s awesome.
They could also put in effort, and use the tool to finish a sketch they drew, or combine a render and a photograph, or simply rearrange and overwrite generated parts until it looks like what they imagined. How much labor can go into a text that communicates an idea, and still not be art?
At what point does a definition exclude Koyaanisqatsi?
My point is that it’s not art. That it is being called and considered such, is NOT awesome. It cheapens the craft that many spend their lives to perfect. And it dehumanizes the process.
Make all the slop you want. Just don’t call it art, and don’t call yourself an artist.
If I paint a landscape by hand, and generate one flower, does it stop being art?
The craft of Koyaanisqatsi was editing. People have recreated it using stock footage, as a complicated joke, and frankly the message still works. The whole original movie is an arrangement of uncoordinated b-roll. There are no actors. There is no dialog. Any individual part is almost meaningless, but the gestalt is an award-winning cultural touchstone.
Generate an advanced, good looking image using ComfyUI and report back how easy it was. Shit’s breaking my mind and I’m good with computers.
Just to give others an idea: https://learn.thinkdiffusion.com/a-list-of-the-best-comfyui-workflows/
But then again, I’m talking about generating stuff locally.
Now figure out how to actually draw or paint it yourself using real pencils or pens on real paper, or paint on real canvas and report back how easy it is.
Just to give you and idea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel_ceiling
That’s not really comparable. I never claimed drawing/painting is easier, you’re hallucinating. I’m talking about the competition where generating something isn’t always easy.
Generating AI content requires zero skill or talent. You haven’t proven me wrong.
I literally proved you it requires skills by providing a page of example workflows. Are you still hallucinating?
No, you provided an example of how it’s difficult for YOU. Children can learn to create AI “art” within a week.
And a talented child artist would have what impact on your argument here?
A talented child artist wouldn’t use AI.