• nil@piefed.ca
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        4 months ago

        So voting? I think it wouldn’t happen in my country where majority of people are stupid enough to keep supporting capitalism

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          4 months ago

          No, revolution. Canadians don’t support capitalism because they are stupid, but because Canada is an imperialist country and as such a large portion are bribed by the spoils of imperialism.

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        4 months ago

        Are there countries where there aren’t people living paycheck to paycheck? I really can’t think of any, unless we count some social safety net things but some capitalist countries have that

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          4 months ago

          Socialist countries generally have better safety nets, like China. Even Cuba, poor and sanctioned as it is, takes better care of its poorest than capitalist countries do.

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            4 months ago

            China has a shitload of people living paycheck to paycheck in miserable conditions. Up until 2014 (and even still) people outside of cities didn’t even get proper social safety nets. Arguably even some capitalist countries are better off there.

            I’m sure in theory China will have it better than anyone else at some point and whatnot but when it comes to this meme, it’s not a great example tbh

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              4 months ago

              China eradicated extreme poverty, and has been extremely consistent when it comes to improving quality of life year over year. Imperialist countries may have higher quality of life in some areas, such as the Nordics, but they are regularly deteriorating thanks to capitalism while China is regularly rising thanks to socialism.

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                4 months ago

                Like I said, theoretically it will even better than those capitalist countries, at some point. It’s just not the case yet

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                    4 months ago

                    That’d be fine if those were the two countries in the world, but there’s lots of capitalist and socialist countries

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      4 months ago

      While living within it? No.

      Your options are too go completely off grid, and homestead. Or to start a revolution and brutally enforce anti capitalist laws.

      Even then, you’re bound to some system of trade. But if you can cut yourself off from financial institutions you’re doing pretty well.