Anna archive continues it’s awesome work.
160kbps ogg files is it really worth backing up
Why wouldn’t it be?
Archives should be lossless unless there’s literally no other source available.
Archiving low quality sources like this just degrades the overall integrity of the whole
160kbps ogg is not exactly low quality. Most people can’t tell the difference between 160kbps ogg and lossless, nor do they have the equipment when listen to. And with huge amount of data like this, it might be impossible or too expensive or too time consuming for them to archive in lossless quality.
I agree, archiving audio files should be lossless when possible, but that is not a requirement. 160kbps ogg is “good enough”.
I consider anything under 256kbps to be not worth getting unless it’s the only ever rip of something that doesn’t exist anymore. If its lossy it should be 320kbps mp3 ideally.
I also try to stay away from VBR rips
You just say it should not, but why? As said 160kbp ogg is for most people not distinguishable from uncompressed. I think it is worth archiving this, especially if it is in mass like this. Why do you stay away from VBR?
Archival should be as close to source quality as possible. VBR just adds more noise to the audio whether you can hear it or not. That means copying it to different mediums will eventually start to notice the quality reduction over time.
It’s not legal what they are doing, isn’t it? Don’t they have basically the whole worlds police force after them already? Where are they even hosting?
This is the view from Belgium indeed.
Edit: alternative link available: https://nl.annas-archive.org/blog/backing-up-spotify.html

Well this is ironic

Haha, wow
Use VPN
Or Cloudflare DNS.
Not with grapheneos
VPN usually saves your IP too. And they have to give your IP address if requested by government. This might not be true for all countries and all VPN, but be mindful about this. I wouldn’t do anything illegal thinking its safe with a VPN.
Nothing is safe, I use grapheneos proxy and random Mac changer with mulvad vpn
Spotify started with piracy.
It is illegal to distribute these files. And they accept money, so it makes it even worse:
Donate to Anna’s Archive. Any amount helps!
Isn’t that just stealing royalties from the musicians?
ha! no, what royalties? play the song one million times and they get a dollar? spotify can get bent. long live bandcamp.
So let me get this straight: Anna’s Archive taking 100% from artists = good, Bandcamp taking ~20% = good, but Spotify taking ~30% = bad? That suggests the issue isn’t artist pay, it’s just which platform you’ve decided to hate.
And Anna’s Archive’s framing around ‘free access to culture’ seems to mean free for scraping and ideological cover, but for-profit when it’s packaged and sold to AI companies. That’s not anarchy - it’s anarcho-capitalism.
i’m not so sure about your numbers there, friend.
also bands don’t make money on streaming or selling records in stores anymore. they make money selling tickets and product at the shows.
source: i have run a live music venue for 35 years. watching the changes in the business model has been wild.
Not sure what the problem with the numbers is. Piracy = 0% to artists, Bandcamp = around 80% after fees and Visa, Spotify = pays rights holders around 70% of gross revenue, and artists often see 20% or less from labels. Blaming Spotify misses the real problem: labels control the payouts, not the platform.
I get that you promote your business a saviour, but how do people find the artists they want to go see without streaming or distribution platforms?






