This question is mainly for those that have family/friends depending on their self-hosted services/data. Does anyone have a plan for the worst case scenario in terms of data access/passwords/making sure your services are kept running if people depend on them? I know I sure don’t, it’s just a strange curiosity my brain thought up and I wondered if anyone else had considered this?
I decided very long ago not to pollute the gene pool, so everything dies with me.
ETA: It’s comforting to know that 10 people agreed with my life decision. /s LOL
gene poo
Indeed, sounds polluted enough 💩
Ha! Spell check fail
I’ve learned to wear brown pants so it’s not as bad.
No :/ my server will probably die with me. My people are going to complain why homeassistant isn’t working, why automated lights don’t turn on and why nothing has been added to the plex library in forever. Just not sure who they’ll complain to lol.
At the end of the day, its my hobby and they’ll just have to live with how it was before. The hardware will be there if anyone wants to start up their own thing, but I don’t see it happening.And this is why I try to recommend to every single person starting their smart home to plan it so that if everything dies, their internet, their router, power gets restarted, and their HomeAssistant gets corrupted, and you die, at the same time, that everything will work exactly as expected, because with MANY smart home systems they will just stop functioning or be stuck in a bad mode until your family hires someone to fix it.
That’s why I lean hard towards KNX
Nearly everything you possess will end up in a landfill or the ocean within 10 years of your death, this is no exception.
Why’s that? So much of my treasure comes from estate sales etc, they don’t make stuff like they used to. I would say 90% of what I own has passed through someone else’s hands, and a pretty good chunk of em have themselves passed
It’s more common to be wasteful and irresponsible. Literally tons of high quality stuff is thrown in the garbage because people want a shitty plastic one that’s more up-to-date and stylish, and more to the point, not used.
The garbage is another great source for treasure :)
https://github.com/potatoqualitee/eol-dr
Seems pretty thorough.
This is what I was trying to find for op. Well done!
👆🏻 This is the link everyone needs to look at.
It covers things like keeping your phone active for 2FA, subscriptions that need to be paid until data is saved, etc.
It’s what my SO & I use.
Very thorough
There’s a project on github just for this, I forget what it’s called.
Basically they’ve developed a mechanism for providing instructions and access to security (usernames, passwords, etc).
I’ll see of I can find it
Looks interesting but explicitly says it’s “alpha software “ and hasn’t been updated in five years. I’d be weary of using something like this in such a critical situation.
Agreed. I wasn’t suggesting to use it, but was just asking if OP was referring to that project.
Replying to get notified!
So you get a notification, spacelord suggested Hereditas: https://github.com/ItalyPaleAle/hereditas
Not sure if it’s the same one OP is thinking of, though.
Edit: also, from further down: https://github.com/potatoqualitee/eol-dr
Not sure if gonemanswitch is the one you’re referring to, but it’s the one I use.
I do, and it’s probably the main reason I started self hosting.
Managing parents estate made me want to get my shit in order for my own kids in the event I die. There’s a good chance that if I die, my cell phone is gonna die with me. And commercial services from Apple, Google, banks, and other institutions are increasingly tied to a single cell phone as “identity.” If you try to login on a device with no session cookies, they treat it as hostile, and do all sorts of oddball stuff that almost always requires the cellphone to access. And if you don’t have that phone, it’s incredibly hard.
By self hosting, I can choose to make access to that most of that data much easier for my family if I die and my cellphone dies with me. I don’t expect them to continue self-hosting, but I do want them to have easy access to files so they can move them to some system they are comfortable with.
Since others were posting end of life style docs, here is another: https://www.erikdewey.com/bigbook.htm
That’s actually some good info there.
Bitwarden has a account custodian feature that will give my wife all the info she needs to access essential accounts and hardware, however, realistically the homelab will only continue to work until things start dropping - there is likely no easy recovery of crashes.
I haven’t talked to my wife about it directly, you’ve reminded me this would be a good conversation to have, but the first thing she should do when the insurance money comes in is (after paying off the assassin) buy a bunch of dumb light bulbs and pay to print any photos she cares about in case our digital backups die.
If?
I suppose you could add the qualifier “unexpectedly”
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
My plan is using Shamir’s Secret Sharing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir's_secret_sharing) to split my encrypted master password in 3: one for my wife, one for my mother and one for my best friend. In case I die, only 2 of those parts are needed to recover the password.
This is one of the reasons why I don’t host other people’s data. I’d consider this option if there was another technical person among users with whom I could share workload and risks like a sudden death.
My Gmail account has the Inactive Account Manager thing turned on so if I don’t use my account for 6 months it’ll email my wife my Bitwarden master password and instructions to get my self-host nerd into it where he can then do whatever he wants with it.
I want to be buried with my treasure, and as a data hoarder I will have to leave instructions for writing it all to tape.
Yeah, have a tech mate ready to step in, like a “porn buddy” https://youtube.com/shorts/kgu3PzpKhn4
