• BanMe@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      24 days ago

      “Notice of class-action settlement: your cash payout has arrived, 83¢ has been deposited on a Meta giftcard in your name.”

      • hector@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        24 days ago

        Just send a written letter with your name, bday, ss no., mothers maiden name, address, and return a signed copy of the nda agreement barring you from speaking of the case, our company, lawyers, and holding us harmless. The gift card for .88 dollars will arrive within 6 to 8 weeks, visit www.fuckyouthatswhy.com to activate!

  • jaybone@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    ·
    25 days ago

    Zuck has kissed the ring. He will be fine. You can all stop worrying about him now. Barbecue sauce.

  • TheFederatedPipe@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    35
    ·
    25 days ago

    It really is! I was off for about three months, and I decided to go back to it just to be up-to-date with some friends and creators, right? Well, I was doom-scrolling for hours in about just a week of usage. Whenever that happens, I uninstall the app causing it, so I just deleted it again. The craziest part? After a couple of hours, I could feel the craving to open the app. Crazy shit.

  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    arrow-down
    15
    ·
    25 days ago

    Fuck Facebook and also this is clearly morphing into a moral panic about social media in a way that is extremely unproductive, dangerous and ultimately a distraction from the actual issues at hand.

    • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      55
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      25 days ago

      Not sure if you’re trying to argue that modern social media is a good thing… Because it really isn’t. All of these platforms are actively detrimental to our mental health and destabilizing society. All of them have their billionaire owners manipulating the algorithms to maximize what they want you to see and minimize opposing views, if not outright removing them (like Meta is doing with the ICE List currently).

      • IronBird@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        15
        ·
        25 days ago

        news networks have been doing this same pretty much since they’ve existed

        • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          28
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          25 days ago

          No, news networks are not algorithmically curating content specifically for each individual person, based on personal traits that they record based on usage.

        • porcoesphino@mander.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          25 days ago

          Humans have been killing each other as long as we’ve existed isn’t an argument to avoid trying to make it happen less

          • IronBird@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            25 days ago

            just saying billionaires manipulating shit has been the norm for ages, which is why we used to have media-ownership limits…repealed under Clinton iirc

            • pipi1234@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              9
              ·
              24 days ago

              Agreed, but now they have tools that enable them to do it with unprecedented impact.

              In my opinion, the difference is so huge, we might as well think they didn’t manipulate things at all before.

            • porcoesphino@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              24 days ago

              Yeah, by memory Rupert Murdoch had his hand at that and in Aus and the UK. I’d love to see that reined in again too

      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        23
        ·
        25 days ago

        Massive corporate social media companies and rightwing billionaires are the problem, not social media.

        Not sure if you’re trying to argue that modern social media is a good thing… Because it really isn’t.

        What are you doing here then?

        • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          46
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          25 days ago

          Lemmy might fit within the technical definition of social media, but don’t be so obtuse as to equate an anonymous community message board with the likes of Facebook and IG that are tied to your identity, and are designed algorithmically to keep you engaged as long as possible while pressuring you to share more and more of your personal life.

          The “If social media bad, why on Lemmy?” Thing is the epitome of halfwit false equivalency.

          • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            30
            ·
            25 days ago

            Lemmy might fit within the technical definition of social media, but don’t be so obtuse as to equate an anonymous community message board with the likes of Facebook and IG that are tied to your identity, and are designed algorithmically to keep you engaged as long as possible while pressuring you to share more and more of your personal life.

            then use your brain and analyze this deeper than social media = bad

            • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              32
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              25 days ago

              Nobody is interested in seriously engaging with your sophomoric “you criticize society yet you participate in it” nonsense. We get it, you’re 14 and think you’re deep.

              • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                23 days ago

                Great and I am not interested in being subjected to a moral panic that feels like the logic was laid out by grifters trying to distract from their grift by manipulating gullible idiots to empower them even more.

    • Lfrith@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      36
      ·
      25 days ago

      Billionaires are running the most popular social media sites and utilizing the algorithm to attempt to influence their addicted userbase on a large scale, and succeeded on many demographics and even win elections.

      I don’t think it is a stretch to call it a moral panic, because its not an unbiased and transparent system that is dictating what is seen and spread. It is a huge black box propganda tool.

      • grue@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        25 days ago

        Except the propaganda mostly isn’t what the “social media addiction” folks are worrying about.

        • Lfrith@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          25 days ago

          Even people who don’t care about usage of propaganda are affected, since these social media addicted folks have brought up how they are getting more unrelated propaganda content exposed to them even if all they want to see is cats and food recipes as an example.

    • Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      25 days ago

      nah… mark is clearly an international drug dealer and needs to have all his property seized, and then destroyed while he rots in prison.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    24 days ago

    Disable YT history. Make YT Subscriptions page your home page. Now all you see are the most recent videos from your subscribed channels. You can keep up with them without being distracted by garbage suggestions. It’s a much better experience.

      • Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        24 days ago

        I just block the side-bar using Ublock Origin. Makes more room on the page and im not sold shit. If I want random videos ill hit the home page the post-screen after a video.

        Keeps my time down on the site by a lot.

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      24 days ago

      I don’t know man… I found so many nice channels randomly… Kurzgesagt, science asylum so many great educational channels that just pop up

      • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        24 days ago

        Just remember they are education and entertainment, don’t binge watch them like I did

  • Bosht@lemmy.world
    cake
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    24 days ago

    Fucking GOOD. We need these useless companies to fail out and be held responsible for their actions.

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    23 days ago

    It’s okay though because Zuck greased the Trump admin’s palms with his Presidential Library bribe, so they’ll get a slap on the wrist at best.

  • Maeve@kbin.earth
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    25 days ago

    pondered letting “tweens” access a private mode inspired by the popularity of fake Instagram accounts teens know as “finstas.” That document included an “internal discussion on how to counter the narrative that Facebook is bad for youth and admission that internal data shows that Facebook use is correlated with lower well-being (although it says the effect reverses longitudinally).” Other allegedly damning documents showed Meta seemingly bragging that “teens can’t switch off from Instagram even if they want to” and an employee declaring, “oh my gosh yall IG is a drug,” likening all social media platforms to “pushers.” Similarly, a 2020 Google document detailed the company’s plan to keep kids engaged “for life,” despite internal research showing young YouTube users were more likely to “disproportionately” suffer from “habitual heavy use, late night use, and unintentional use” deteriorating their “digital well-being.” Shorts, YouTube’s feature that rivals TikTok, also is a concern for parents suing, and three years later, documents showed Google choosing to target teens with Shorts, despite research flagging that the “two biggest challenges for teen wellbeing on YouTube” were prominently linked to watching shorts. Those challenges included Shorts bombarding teens with “low quality content recommendations that can convey & normalize unhealthy beliefs or behaviors” and teens reporting that “prolonged unintentional use” was “displacing valuable activities like time with friends or sleep.”

  • vogo13@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    24 days ago

    Facebook helped to cause Arab Spring. These platforms are responsible for the destruction of civilization under the guise of “connecting everyone”.

    • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      24 days ago

      These platforms are responsible for the destruction of civilization under the guise of “connecting everyone”.

      CA discovered how to “hack” people’s minds, then maybe the Russians and Chinese figured it out, and the oligarchy and the lunatic fringe want all in to brainwash the world.

      Makes me angry knowing that at anytime a bigger war could break out.

      • MangoCats@feddit.it
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        24 days ago

        at anytime a bigger war could break out.

        Welcome back to the late 1970s / early 1980s I grew up in.

        We just learned to live with it- maybe move to a big city for a better chance at instant vaporization.

        Meanwhile in 1984: When Doves Cry you might as well Jump, and when the 99 Red Balloons Float by you’ll be sitting pretty in this dust that was a city.

        • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          24 days ago

          The 80s were anxiety inducing because the specter of war was then high until the Soviet Union collapsed on itself, so throughout the 90s and the naughts a nuke war wasn’t going to happen even with North Korea trying to rattle sabers.

          Instead and beginning last year we now have madmen on hair triggers, and if it’s not a third world war, then a prospect of another American civil war where there’s a high potential of causing a global economic catastrophe.

          • MangoCats@feddit.it
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            23 days ago

            The 90s and the naughts were actually a pretty good time… we did too little to ensure that continued, in so so many ways.

    • ranzispa@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      22 days ago

      I wouldn’t use Arab springs as an example of why Facebook is not a good product. Facebook has many problems and misuses, but I would not list allowing people to organise as one of them.

  • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    24 days ago

    That lawsuit documents the case of a 19-year-old, K.G.M, who hopes the jury will agree that Meta and YouTube caused psychological harm by designing features like infinite scroll and autoplay to push her down a path that she alleged triggered depression, anxiety, self-harm, and suicidality.

    What the hell is everyone watching? YT recommends me Red Letter Media, Veratasium, old movies, Blender tutorials and a bunch of other stuff that’s never going to drive me to self-harm. I don’t understand. May be this woman doesn’t have ad blocker installed and is forced to sit through a bunch of soul crushing PSAs? Why is my experience so drastically different from this?

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      30
      ·
      edit-2
      24 days ago

      Algorithms try to push body negativity if it thinks you’re a teen girl because they tend to scroll more and buy more when depressed.

      If it thinks you’re a single man then it tries to push manosphere stuff.

      On YouTube I find I my relevant suggestions last about a month before I have to mark a bunch of videos as not interested or block a bunch of channels.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        24 days ago

        Yeah there was a period where it noticed I watched a few trans youtubers and so it started promoting anti trans content, it was around the election (I forget if before or after), but either way it disgusted me that they’d do that

      • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        24 days ago

        Algorithms aren’t that smart. Maybe there needs to be general education about how they work so people will understand that viewing a video is like searching for a topic in google so people will understand how much control over what they see and use the technology appropriately.

        If you watch a video about anorexia that’s like typing “Anorexia” in Google or pressing 9 on a remote control, you’re getting channel 9. That’s why to me this sounds crazy. It’s like someone complaining their TV keeps pushing the cooking channel at them.

          • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            24 days ago

            Sure, google knows I’m a 50+ year old man but YT isn’t pushing me a bunch of videos about retirement and how to keep the damn kids off my lawn. If I made a new account and it knew nothing about me, it might. But right now it knows I’m interested in obscure early 20th Century comic books and early 70s horror anthology shows.

            Edit:

            I misunderstood what you said. I use ad blocker so I don’t see ads. Sometimes they get through and it’s always Wix. That is kind of a mystery to me.

      • hector@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        24 days ago

        On a podcast I was listening to a researcher had made an account and subscribed to just like technology and sports and within a few months they had him on like manisphere stuff with tate and those types of assholes

        • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          24 days ago

          I get some manosphere stuff for the same reason, but mostly ignore it. At the risk of getting beat up here, I like Joe Rogan. His celebrity interviews are entertaining and I like wacky subjects like UFOs and such which he covers. Plus I’m a gamer so I watch videos about guns frequently because I find that fascinating though I don’t want to own one. So that’s why I’ll get recommended manisphere stuff. And I’ll get curious and take a look at those videos, and get more recommendations. But when I stop watching them, they go away. My recommendations are based on whatever I’m interested in at the time.

          Everybody talks about Andrew Tate but I have never ever seen any of his videos. Him or Mr. Beast. They never get recommended. I only know about Tate because everybody everywhere else is complaining about him. So I don’t what that researcher did to get that.

          • hector@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            24 days ago

            I’ve never seen any of his videos either or any of the manosphere stuff, but I don’t get on YouTube like that. But this researcher I think he signed up for Tech and sports and then just played the auto suggestion from there and it ended up on like Nazi shit and entertain pimping out people’s daughters. And treating them like shit. I tried to give Rogan a chance, I found out he was a Bernie Sanders supporter and he even had Sanders on his show last year and I tuned in and listened to maybe eight episodes around then and I can’t get past his pretending to believe Republican bullshit, like the president’s lawsuits against media, pretending those are in good faith and with merit, most of all his castigating of environmental protesters, as paid actors, as an environmental protester I take issue with that Above All Else.

            I appreciate that he is leading his flock to better outcomes on some subjects but I just can’t get past his cynical self-interested Embrace of lies that are extremely harmful. It’s not like this asshole needs more money from those lies either. That is actually why I am on lemme much now I said basically the same thing and reddit violated me for a 3-day ban for advocating violence. Literally just said the exact same thing about Rogan here, I appeal but I will never know how it turns out because at a 3-day ban I abandoned the accounts. Over half a dozen just in a few years now.

            He would be half likable if he was not such a cynical pos pushing the most harmful lies, quite knowingly. Still though I appreciate he say acknowledged inflation is understated, since the 70s, it was 5 to 8 pc by the unchanged mdtric, 2 to 3 under the newer just by 2008.

            Absolutely no one will touch that one. It is the most harmful.of all actions perhaps as no one affords what they could while experts tell us we have never had higher buying power.

            Seriously, I think there is some systematic pollution that is inhibiting the fear Center or other parts of the brain and making people more docile. Because previous generations never would have stood for this shit. Also rampant texoplasmosis which inhibits the fear Center in the brain. I’m serious about that done not even half joking anymore. Something is wrong with people.

      • yermaw@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        24 days ago

        My youtube is used exclusively by my toddler, with me seeing about 10 videos a month. It pushes me AI generated sprunky and brainrot bullshit.

    • architect@thelemmy.club
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      24 days ago

      Truth is these people watch garbage and the algo delivers… garbage.

      I’m not trying to victim blame but, i mean… not my YouTube either (but I’ve seen the front pages of some…stupid people too say it nicely).

      • Jax@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        24 days ago

        Meanwhile my girlfriend and I just got done watching a 2 hour video on Japans creepiest educational video, subject of which is the Heian era of Japan. Her algorithm pulls are goated.

    • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      24 days ago

      Watching those hack frauds causes psychological harm. Rich Evans is known to trigger depression