• FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
    25·
    14 days ago

    TBF most people don’t understand his concept of a Turing Test. The test was an in-person interview with no set questions or time limit, simply a human expert taking as long as they needed to determine humanity.

    • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      14 days ago

      Also if you look at the technology of his time, there was no reason to think there’d be this huge explosion of information enough that you’d be able to just stitch a hundred million books and petabytes of online forums’ worth of text together into a statistical next token predictor.

      In his time there were maybe at most 4 million publications in all of existence (extrapolating from https://www.clrn.org/how-many-books-have-been-published-in-history/ ) which finger-in-the-air estimate would be ~2Tb; a tiny fraction of what’s on the internet now. Even if he’d anticipated the invention of the transistor and microchip technology, the brain he was imagining still would have had to be able to reason in the traditional way; an LLM trained entirely on Project Gutenberg would not come close to passing the Turing Test no matter how many parameters you built it with. To Turing, passing as human would have meant possessing a capacity of reason beyond assigning probability values to a list of potential autocompletes based on what’s in all the other texts.

      • FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineEnglish
        10·
        14 days ago

        Fr, one of the best examples of this is if you take a classic riddle and add some minor change to it then LLMs will find it suddenly impossible to solve.

        • SippyCup@lemmy.world
          6·
          14 days ago

          My favorite is making up a nonsense idiom for an llm to tell me the meaning of.

          “What does it mean when someone says ‘he’s not your grandma but she can fix a canoo?’”

  • bonenode@piefed.socialEnglish
    18·
    14 days ago

    According to some recent articles Grindr is leaning fully into AI. I’d hope Turing would be someone not happy about such a development.

    • coherent_domain@infosec.pubEnglish
      3·
      14 days ago

      I heard Turing is a quite open-minded and outgoing person, I feel he might have a okay chance of giving LLM a shot. On the other hand, I feel there is no way Dijkstra is gonna vibe with LLM.

  • ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip
    151·
    14 days ago

    These meme reduces him from a brilliant scientist to “lol he gay” just like the British government did after the war. Why do people upvote this homophobic shit?

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
      4·
      13 days ago

      Why do people upvote this homophobic shit?

      I took it as a celebration of his life, with a dash of “Hey, as a gay man, life is way better, today.”

      I’m not sure “reduces him (Alan Turing) from a brilliant scientist” is possible, on Lemmy.

      We don’t have saints here, but if that ever changes, Alan Turing and Ada Lovelace will probably be our first and second second and third saints (edit: apologies to Fred Rogers. I feel silly.).

      Edit: Heck, this is fun. Here’s a proposal for our first round inductee Saints of Lemmy candidates:

      • Fred Rogers (Automatic round one draft pick.)

      Then for consideration to complete our first induction year:

      • Alan Turing
      • Ada Lovelace
      • Bob Ross

      And if living people can be inducted:

      • Linux Torvalds
      • Christine Lemmer-Webber
      • Members of the production teams behind Mr Rogers Neighborhood, Sesame Street, Blues Clues + It might take a few years to induct everyone who deserves it.

      I might keep returning to this list. Lots of folks deserve credit here.

      • SippyCup@lemmy.world
        8·
        14 days ago

        Homophobic might be a bit far but it is sexist and stupid. Not terribly different from saying that if Marie Curie were alive she’d go straight to tinder instead of entering the debate about atomic energy.

    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
      2·
      14 days ago

      Well, even without everything that happened to him, he would have died from old age by now. Might have had a chance to see the rise of home computers and the early internet though.