Recently was told by a Christian to look into eucharistic miracles.

These are when the bread and wine at mass literally turns into flesh and blood.

Apparently these were tested and found to come from a living heart with AB Blood. And all the sources I find list them as verified real.

I can’t find any contradicting resources.

So I’m wondering if anyone has one. Cause this just doesn’t smell right. The Bible is a self contradicting mess and prayer has already been shown not to work, but somehow God saved his real evidence for randomly trolling priests by turning wine into blood?

I don’t know about that one.

I will confess most of the resources I found covering them were Catholic in origin, which are hardly trustworthy (another reason why I’m not buying it)

Anyone here more adept at googling shit who can tell me how this is bogus?

Don’t get me wrong. I’d love for God to be real but the paranormal has an atrocious track record.

Edit: Apparently it was a bacterial fungus. Thanks for helping me figure it out.

  • actionjbone@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    17·
    10 天前

    You answered your own question: all the “evidence” is provided by the church itself. You haven’t found any independent, peer-reviewed evidence.

    I can say I opened a can of tomato sauce and tests showed it to be type AB blood. Doesn’t mean you should believe me, even if I spread it to lots of websites.

    • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      3·
      10 天前

      Yes but some of the scientists they got to study it were atheists (though one later converted) and they’d have to go along with the lie.

      If it were the church saying they studied it themselves that’d be one thing. But the scientists they hired were not of the vatican.

      • teslekova@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        10·
        10 天前

        Did the information that they were atheists come from the church? Also, did the experiments carefully make sure that the wine was not switched out for blood in the test? You gotta think like James Randi here.

        • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          1·
          10 天前

          The blood came from a living heart and was the rarest blood type, AB Positive. This was consistent in every “miracle”, so unless the Vatican had blood from that overly specific criteria in large amounts just sitting around a switch seems unlikely.

          If it wasn’t the same blood type each time and from a very specific region of the body, that might be more obvious an answer.

          And I’d rather not think like a guy with high school education who got Kicked out of a skeptical organization he helped found for being bad at the scientific method

          Seriously Randi is overrated and he served as the science advisor on the False Memory Foundation… which was an organization that gaslit rape victims into thinking they suffered a fake syndrome that causes them to form false traumatic memories.

          Susan Blackmore is a much better person to look up to

          • actionjbone@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            11·
            10 天前

            Again: I can say a can of tomato sauce tested as AB positive blood.

            There was no actual study and wine did not actually turn into blood.

            And the Vatican had nothing to do with it.

            Ordinary people spread lies in order to convince others to believe in their church. That’s all this is.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        9 天前

        If you believe that they were in fact atheists. Or they even studied it.

        They’ll cite a vague WHO report, and decry it as some sort of persecution or conspiracy when you point out the WHO has no record of such a study. (Specifically of the Lanciano miracle.)

        Alternatively, the atheists published their findings- like that they found human dna on the Buenas Aires miracle (that happened under pope Francis when he was there.)

        And then promptly ignore the part of the report that says that DNA is most consistent with contamination from some one touching it.