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  • crapwittyname@feddit.uk
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    11 hours ago

    Religious indoctrination is child abuse.
    Sending your kids to places of worship or a religious school, or telling them “this is our religion”, is child abuse.
    This includes christofascists and oppressed minorities.

    I’m on the fence as to whether telling your child they are a girl or a boy is similarly harmful.

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      9 hours ago

      This is similar to how I feel. I have no problem with people believing in a religion as long as they keep it to themselves and don’t try and force it on anyone. That includes their offspring. I’d say all children should be banned from religious buildings like churches and mosques until they are either a teen or legal adult. Then they can make the decision on if they want to join an organized religion.

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        3 hours ago

        I’ve found my people! Maybe this isn’t so controversial on lemmy but in the whole of global society, I think it is. No way I’m saying something like this over a family dinner or an office coffee.

    • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 hours ago

      On the religious points, that’s not even slightly controversial, you’re just a Reddit atheist.

      Intentionally and blatantly overly reductive on a complex issue, and overly focused on Organised Religion, ignoring the more freeform ones and the ones that verge on just being philosophy. (Some of the none-western faiths)

      I fully agree on your latter point though.

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        3 hours ago

        I did make up my mind on this before Reddit was invented, so a swing and a miss there.

        It’s reductive because nobody wants to read a 600-page treatise in a comments section, which is why I forgive your equally reductive hand-waving about unspecified other faiths. The word “indoctrination” is key here. Teaching your child philosophy is not indoctrination. The abuse is choosing for them before they are sufficiently complex consciousnesses to choose for themselves. This occurs most commonly, and is most socially acceptable when it comes to gender and religion.

        • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          2 hours ago

          Reddit atheist is older than Reddit too, the term just became given that name by it being so prevalent on Reddit. (In the same way that atheism existed before the word “atheism”)

          It’s been around almost as long as secularism in society