Updated my actual-budget container today, and met with authentication failure - I am locked out of my budgets.

I turned to the github repo for troubleshoot, and… Noticed that their commits are pretty much dominated by AI now.

At least they seem to be being up-front about their AI usage by tagging commits with the tag, but it still feels icky to me.

(As a ‘bonus’, their only support channel is on discord - but I guess that’s the norm for many open-source projects.)

Is this fact of life now? Are most projects being written and managed by LLM nowadays? Not sure I can trust the projects nowadays.

Is there alternative budget app which does not involve LLM?

  • richmondez@lemdro.idEnglish
    481·
    3 个月前

    There is a significant difference between AI assisted and AI produced from what I’ve seen and experienced so far.

    Assisted takes generated code and uses it to inform the code actually written, letting it fulfill a boiler plate function or the place of a junior coder at worst.

    Then there are those project committing the AI produced code largely unreviewed and unchanged.

    Former is mostly fine but needs an experienced coder who trained writing code unassisted (where are new coders of that caliber going to come from now?), the latter is a morasse of slop.

    • aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      3 个月前

      Yes, experience matters a lot. I think the comparison of an coding agent being like a trainee is somewhat appropriate. Leave them to their own devices, and you likely don’t get something you should be shipping to production. But guide them appropriately, and they are helpful. The difference obviously is, that a trainee learns, an agent not so much. At least not on an abstract level. Of course the more code you have, the more patterns they can then copy. But if your baseline rots, so will the code the agent derives from that baseline.

    • someacnt@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      91·
      3 个月前

      It lists no alternative to actual(-budget) :( I don’t have time to create my own alternative, maybe I should go back to spreadsheets?

  • Shimitar@downonthestreet.euEnglish
    4518·
    3 个月前

    Llm is just a tool and it usage will only increase over time.

    There is nothing intrinsically bad in that, as with any tool, it’s not bad per se, but how we use it.

    So, push for ethic and proper usage of AI, rather.

    Projects will use AI more and more, nothing bad in that. Provided it’s used properly, vetted, tested, verified and such.

  • aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4319·
    3 个月前

    Aside from fundamentalists the usage of LLMs and coding agents will increase. It’s a tool in the toolbox now and many devs do or will play around with it. Some will have to learn to not overdo it; but that’s nothing new and a lot of fancy technologies or frameworks along the way caused some disruptions because people jumped on the hype train without applying some caution or critical thinking; but that evens out after a while.

    Might be we see a big drop in usage when costs increase, but it’s also very very possible that the many technological advances we currently make (hardware to run models becoming more streamlined and the models themselves being tuned more and more) will mean, that we indeed reach a point where this can be done comparatively cheap and maybe even local (to some degree) without having to take out a loan.

    I wouldn’t say “managed by LLM” though, just because you spot (partially) agent written commits. It’s hard to judge from the outside how much knowledge the maintainer puts into it. There a big band between vibe coding and fully manual coding. And if we are honest, even “fully manual” is a flexible term (does code completion count? does looking at stack overflow count? does looking at other implementations count? using a search engine?).

    The world is changing, for better or worse. But cut devs some slack and let them get used to the tools. (And to re-iterate that: bad quality and bugs were a thing before agents as well. It just took longer.)

    • Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3835·
      3 个月前

      It’s not a tool, it’s a chaos generator.

      Don’t let people who build houses do it with cardboard boxes instead of bricks, even if it looks like a house in the end.

      • aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2311·
        3 个月前

        It’s not a tool, it’s a chaos generator.

        Just like humans. Bullshit code and bad developers existed before agents helped make them.

  • PetteriPano@lemmy.worldEnglish
    83·
    3 个月前

    I would assume any project that has more than a handful of contributors to have AI-assisted code in it.

    I’m probably living in my little start-up bubble, so my view is probably skewed. The majority of commits I see have not had any code written by humans. Planned, specified and reviewed by senior developers with fancy degrees and a decade of experience in average, though.

    Things move fast, but I’m sure a lot of older and bigger organisations are taking it slower because of the legal unknown.