• Tedesche@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Uh-huh. So, in your fantasy world where cops don’t exist, who intervenes when someone inevitably commits a crime?

    I’m sure you’ve got some version of Social Workers with Enforcement PowersTM in mind, but all that really amounts to is Reformed CopsTM. So, just admit ACAB is your anger-fueled generalization/oversimplified solution to a complex problem and say you want police reform, like the rest of us sane people.

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      in your fantasy world where cops don’t exist, who intervenes when someone inevitably commits a crime?

      Who intervenes when cops are around, though? I’ve been laughed at in my face and told they couldn’t do anything despite us having proof in the form of a brick through our window. Not even the restraining order was honored.

      Or how about the time I got beat up and all they did was allegedly take some notes and tell me they couldn’t do anything because it was private property despite my fresh bruises?

      Or them cat-calling a 15 year-old that they’re supposed to be protecting?

      Kind of useless if you ask me, and I haven’t even gotten to the malicious stuff like locking up my brother in law for a year and pressuring for ransom and sacking his family’s home.

      It’s kind of insane how much we believe in their image rather than rely on their actions to even dare be so condescending.

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        All of those instances are examples of either cops not doing their jobs or the law being imperfect. Problems like that will always exist but that just means we need to focus on fixing them, by changing laws and instituting better systems for policing the police. Getting rid of police as an institution is pointless and fixes nothing.

        I agree we need reforms in both law and police departments, as well as a better institution than “Internal Affairs” to keep cops in line. More essentially, we need to change the cultural problem at the heart of police corruption. Regular psychological evaluations, deescalation training, and an active stance against authoritarian personalities in police need to be adopted.

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      Look at nearly any developed country outside the USA. Cops are not even given firearms in many cases, and the cop murder rate is near zero, even when the suspects are armed. There are way better ways to deal with it.

      If you have a problem and you call the police, you now have two problems. ACAB. police in the usa are tyrants who just punish, don’t give a shit about you.

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        1 month ago

        You’re pointing to countries that still have police as evidence that we don’t need police?

        Man, ACAB arguments have flatlined.