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      I can see how it could be fun in moderation, esp if you’ve got friends to explain stuff. The only Moba that I actually liked removed a lot of tedium of regular mobas, then it shut down.

      edit: it’s kinda wild how both my favorite moba and my fav BR (that removed a shitload of tedium too) shut down, life is unfair sometimes

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        Have you ever tried Heroes of the Storm? It threw away a lot of annoying stuff from the standard MOBA formula. Not exactly alive as of now, but you can still play. That is until Microslop thinks it’s servers are needed to train LLMs.

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          I tried a very similar gamemode in Battlerite, haven’t touched HotS at all, might check it out, thanks

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    People keep hating on LoL, but there is one really great thing about it: it keeps a lot of the worst gamers ring-fenced away from other games.

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      Having played lol for years, I tried so much to enjoy Dota, but honestly it feels like they don’t care to keep the game modern. On league when a champion gets old, they rework it. When visuals are not clear they make them clear. Usually all AOEs you can tell exactly where they end. Dota did not do this, so half the roster feels like all they do is variants of auto attacks.

      Also the fact that every hero feels like a disgustingly OP version of a league champion (though in truth it’s probably league champions that are nerfed dota heros). Sniper has like 3x the range of Caitlyn, everyone wants BKB/Blink dagger, CCs last absolutely forever.

      Maybe I’m just not used to it, but playing dota tilts me more than league ever has. Honestly even ranked league is chill these days.

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        Yeah once you have soured on one, I can imagine it would be really hard to enjoy another, since they are so incredibly similar. Dota came first so the game and nearly every hero in league is somehow based on a Dota hero. I’ll grant it’s a more accessible (shorter learning curve) game which is why the player base is higher, but the reason the pro scene is so much bigger and more established in Dota is precisely because it is so meticulously balanced and rebalanced each month.

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          but the reason the pro scene is so much bigger and more established in Dota is precisely because it is so meticulously balanced and rebalanced each month.

          What do mean it’s bigger? League pro play has over 4 times the viewers. It also has more players and more tournaments. League’s final last year had 6.7M viewers, and 6.9M the year before, a figure that has never been beaten by any other esport in history, not even close. Dota’s peak for comparison was only about 2.7M, same for CSGO.

          As for balance, well, every game tries their best and you won’t convince me that any is much better balanced than the other. League also has a balance patch every two weeks and I’m sure dota players complain about balance as much as league players do.

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            My bad I was just looking at the prize pool from those old TI tournaments ($12 million). And my information is outdated. Suffice to say a larger audience doesn’t mean a better game. In my experience, for every big pop culture phenomenon in history, there’s always been a better version of it which goes underappreciated because it appeals to a smaller audience base. Most of the LoL or FPS player base is just a little bit too stupid or impatient for Dota 2, so they can’t handle the two year learning curve

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              Whether its a better game or not is subjective.

              Most of the LoL or FPS player base is just a little bit too stupid or impatient for Dota 2

              Crazy statement. Do you seriously think dota players are smarter than any other game in any way?

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                Definitely. I haven’t done the study but sometimes you don’t have to. Some games just have a more difficult learning curve than others. Like the average IQ of chess players is higher than that of your average checkers player. But more often I think it’s a matter of lack of patience. That’s why Dota games are getting shorter - to appeal to the shorter attention spans of our generation

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                  The only way a dota player would be smarter than a lol one would be if:

                  • The game actively reinforces or weakens IQ, an argument I think we both agree is stupid.
                  • Smarter people choose dota and dumber people choose lol. A point that sounds plausible on the surface until you realize that nobody “chooses” a multiplayer game like that. They choose a game for it’s asthethics, whether you have friends that play it, its popularity, etc… Not because one has trees and the other doesn’t.

                  Like the average IQ of chess players is higher than that of your average checkers player.

                  Stupid argument, there is no concrete proof of that. They are very different types of games with very different goals and a different target audience. That would be like comparing CS vs Dota. Lol-Dota have very few meaningful core differences.

                  In a competitive game, the energy you don’t put thinking about where your courrier is, you put elsewhere, it does not go unused. The learning curve isn’t important when everyone puts in thousands of hours anyway. It takes you a week max to learn the basics of both games anyway, what does it matter if dota requires an extra day?

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          Dota came first

          This is true. However, League was the first ‘big’ moba that was a standalone game and it quickly felt more polished/modern than the Warcraft mod to me. If dota 2 came out earlier I think I would have never left it and I would have never even tried league of legends.

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    Switching to Linux did break my addiction to gaming, though usually I play single player stuff. And then Steam started working, but fortunately crypto came along and made graphics cards shoot up in price and now LLMs have made memory and storage shoot up, so I haven’t upgraded my PC in a long time. So that’s kept me from going back. Now I just play little games on the Switch periodically. But I can’t use those controllers for anything that requires lots of detail control or for long periods., so I don’t play too often.

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    fact: League of Legends used to work on Linux via Proton until R*ot games added anticheat.

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      So the community got so bad the developers had to intervene to take measures to prevent them from cheating each other out of fake internet points and people still play? Hrm… Doesn’t sound like something I’d want to get into anyway.

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    As dumb as it may sound, I’m disappointed I cannot play Halo Wars 2 anymore, makes no sense why it’s a Microsoft store exclusive.

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    Wait there was a workaround to play League Of Legends with a dedicated version of Proton GE

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    The only person I know who played League of Legends was entirely toxic, now she’s nice to me, but still, quite immature and a bully towards people she doesn’t like.

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    y dont people just play idk… dragon ball gekshin squadra instead? gekshin squadra is pretty awesome ngl, since i dont have broly i play with kale cuz lssj IS SO FRIGGIN COOL