https://www.androidauthority.com/silicon-carbon-batteries-explained-3534045/
They’re lithium ion batteries with a new type of anode, not a totally new type of battery.
Advantage: more capacity
Disadvantage: less cycle life.
Bring back swappable batteries. And also back off on higher and higher power draw in phones.
back off on higher and higher power draw in phones.
Thanks for the reminder to revisit my Droid’s developer options and ensure my background processes are restricted to 4 at most.
Anyway, less cycle life is disturbing. Why they don’t try LiFePO4, I don’t get.
LFP has about 2x less energy density unfortunately. It’s a lot cheaper and lasts longer so it’s great for home storage and competitive for lower cost EVs. But phones are all about power hungry bloated apps and web sites.
No chance these background processes are a relatively simple change for us less technical folks, hey?
enable developer settings on android and just set it.
I think it’s different for all phones, but on my Samsung, I go to about - > software information in settings and press the build number a couple of times until developer mode enables. then, just set max background processes. doesn’t even take 5 minutes to do lol
Ah you rock, thank you! This was literally 5 minutes of my day haha
For any other non techies, it’s this easy!
LFP batteries are energy dense and long lasting, but heavy. I’m not 100% sure if the weight would be a big deal at phone scale, but AFAIK that’s why they havent been adopted for phones
Maybe lower cycle life. I’ve had my RM 11 pro for like 5 months and accubattery hasn’t been charting me a very big decline yet. Of course, since it started at 7,500mah, it can lose a lot of capacity before it drops down to the 5,000mah range most phones new come with. I’ll have the same issue as with Samsung flagships, though. Can’t buy a new replacement OEM battery to save my life.
Looking forward to the lineup running graphene
Is Motorola about to become cool again?
They are partnered with graphene os, making the first non - pixel graphene phone next year.
So yeah, that’s pretty cool.
Oh yeah, that was already the basis of my thinking Motorola might be cool again. The new battery is just one more data point.
W . . wood-grain? . . . flip phone? . . . GrapheneOS?
I’ve had Motorola phones for my past three or four phones. Latest one I’ve bought is the 2023 razr. They were a bit of an also ran kind of phone for many of those, but it’s definitely worth pointing out that their phones were basically always unlocked, and that they have remained an excellent value in comparison to shit companies that eat penis for a living like horrible ass Samsung.
When my Motorola phone had some problem, I was always able to pick up a new, unlocked one for around a hundred bucks.
IMO, Motorola continued doing what Google Nexus was doing at the exact same time that Google discontinued the Nexus line and started the Google Pixel line to try to emulate Apple and/or Samsung.
Sorta? But their parent Lenovo is chronically terrible at ever supporting the Motorola phones for one or two major OS version. The hardware is generally solid.
Not that there’s been a single genuinely good Android feature in 10 years, and most of the time Google just makes the OS worse now, but security updates seem important to maintain.
OnePlus 15 was the first one. With 7000mah
In a world where batteries are nigh-irreplaceable for non-experts, I’m personally happy to keep using lithium-ion that deteriorates more slowly than silicon-carbon.
The slightly faster charging means almost nothing to me because I’m already charging at night, and any charging I do during the day as an emergency can get me to enough to last the rest of the day in maybe 15 minutes.
The better energy density is more realistically going to translate into manufacturers making the battery smaller. Larger capacity basically wouldn’t matter to me; capped at 80%, my phone battery after over 3 years still gets me through a day and a half.
Makes more sense for a flip phone, but then I’d see a horizontally folding flip phone as the dumbest possible model I could get. At least a vertically folding one has some potential interesting uses even if it’s way more liable to break and more expensive than a non-fold.
Motorola has always been quick to focus on battery life which the flagships rarely do.
I could care less about a folding phone but a graphine OS phone with a huge battery would be amazing.
I agree with everything in this comment except the phrase ‘could care less’.
Just nitpicking - still upvotes.
Ha good point. “I couldn’t care less”
Here I’ve had my 1TB 24GB red magic 11 pro with silicon carbon battery in the US for like 5 months now. Water cooled (gimmicky), air cooled (legit), and better performance with a bigger battery than anything Samsung will put out this year. $1000 and came with an 80watt charging block.
Yep. I have a Ine Plus 15 with one. 7,400 man, I can barely kill it in a day if I’m trying. Just using it, it’s like 2-3 days. Also not being a pure silicone battery (less than 15%) it still has awesome cycles and 120w charging, 80w wireless charging.
I set mine to go to 85% and then pass through charge. A heavy use day and I’ll go from 85 in the morning to like 25% at night.
Red magic claims 80w wireless charging, but I haven’t seen anything that will do over 40w, and that sounded like a spaceship to keep it cool. Lol.
OnePlus 15 was the first one. 7000mah. But it is technically correct they beat Samsung and google
In the U.S. at least, Motorola is a more recognisable/established than OnePlus is. In other parts of the world, OnePlus has more dominance (like the Chinese and Indian markets)
One thing to add, the precursor to the 15, the OP 13 (14 skipped due to the number 4 being bad luck in China), was actually the first one to ship with SiC batteries in the U.S.!
