• Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Oh I remember this guy. He made the bold choice of taking the username goat and then instead of meaning “greatest of all time” just went with… a literal goat. Which, I think everyone has to agree, you absolutely have to respect.

    I wonder if someone can create or has already created a “Marxist AI” that can argue purely from like an ML stance, avoiding the bullshit centrist shit. Let the perverts debate a literal robot all day.

  • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Y’know people like to point to this and be like “oh so you guys refuse to debate? You must be afraid that your echo-chamber is not as secure as you think, I have some points that will really make you re-evaluate your stances” and yea at first glance any normal person will be like, ok let’s hear them out… now skip ahead like 3 years… those Mastur-debators were proven wrong and given book recommendations to help better define terms, better help understand key aspects of theory and class struggle/ societal structuring of class antagonisms, and history. You would think the Mastur-debators would be like “huh, I don’t actually know as much about Marxism-Leninism or Dial-Mat, etc. as much as I thought” but no! New ones pop up and ask the same questions, BEST CASE SCENARIO, they bring up a new point to be corrected. Worst case scenario: aka the most common one, they just parrot back the same talking points as the last one did, and we have to shut down debate and be like “bruh we already covered this please read this, I’m not typing out a whole 4 paragraphs, this is on you to do your research next time” and all of a sudden we’re tankies that don’t wanna debate because we’re afraid of it.

    • Munrock ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      What irritates me with the echo chamber accusation is that it’s impossible to be in a communist echo chamber if you’re an anglophone. Liberal values and tropes are so baked into every aspect of Western society that it’s impossible to interact with English-speaking societies without being constantly bombarded by their horseshit and the harmful effects of it.

      Communities like this one are less echo chamber and more like a sound-proofed booth to get some respite from the constant torrent of brain shitfuckery that comes with existing as an anglophone.

      • Drewfro66@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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        1 year ago

        It’s a general-purpose instance that leans Libertarian.

        Take a look at their community list. Besides the sorts of general-purpose communities that every instance has: Gaming, NonCredibleDefense (started as a shitposting spinoff of CredibleDefense, a subreddit about military discussion. Nowadays the community is basically a NATO circlejerk), AI shit, and “MeanwhileOnGrad”, the community dedicated to posting our w’s to get mad at.

        (And after checking, it turns out the guy in the screenshot is the sole moderator of /c/MeanwhileOnGrad who makes basically all of their posts lol. Talk about living rent free)

        The owner of sh.itjust.works is also a weird free-speech-absolutist Libertarian guy. He made a big stink about the community forcing him to defederate from exploding-heads, the Nazi instance, because he believed in “free speech”. Users pointed out that sh.itjust.works had been defederated from Lemmygrad since it was created, and the admin confessed that that was because of “personal opinions” (that apparently did not apply to literal Nazis).