• Introversion@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    I doubt it. Polls conducted this early aren’t worth much. People who tend to vote for Democrats may wish for a younger candidate than Biden, but when confronted in the voting booth with a choice of fascism or Biden, most will choose Biden.

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    7 months ago

    Probably. I don’t follow US politics closely, but it does feel like we’re in the darkest timeline.

    Besides, he kind of goatse-d the overton window. Nothing would surprise me now that it’s already happened once.

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      7 months ago

      Besides, he kind of goatse-d the overton window.

      There’s an image I’ll have trouble getting out if my head.

  • empireOfLove@lemmy.one
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    7 months ago

    He doesn’t have a chance in the popular vote. He already lost it once (twice, technically). And with how polarizing he’s become, only the more extreme fringe actors are outright supporting him, and those with real money want a “safe” candidate that allows them to keep grifting behind the scenes without causing such a big ruckus. He’ll lose a lot of big donor support, and people are growing tired of the constant outrage news that he generates.
    We’ve seen how he performs a symphony of a clusterfuck in a 4 year term, and not even the GOP itself is jumping right at the idea of embracing another 4 years of that struggle- they’re waffling at the idea, and a lot of the extremist upstarts that got a foothold under Trump now want to knock him out of it so they can have their own moment of glory. But Trump was a one-time shot. He was THE face of “The Big Businessman, doing a Business” that appealed to the older, more bootstrapy kind of crowd that still unfortunately dominates the actively voting public. All the younger extremists are trying to parrot him and can’t quite get away with the same level of “crazy” energy without looking actually crazy, since they don’t have the gold-plated toilet of “American Success” to back them up.

    But regardless of that, will every hard-right extremist fight tooth and nail to ensure he still wins, including but not limited to high treason, rushed gerrrymandering, voter intimidation (or outright slaughter) and the active dismantling of every aspect of democracy down to the local voter box level? You bet your ass they’re gonna try here.

  • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
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    7 months ago

    I think it’s a coin flip. You could point to ten reasons it’s “obvious” Trump will win and I could give you ten reasons it’s “obvious” he won’t.

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    7 months ago

    I honestly don’t think he’ll be able to run. Two or three major things are counting against him.

    1. His health. He’s 77, unhealthy, and he may not make it to 78. Both his parents died very old, mother - 88, father - 93. They also had far fewer health concerns though. Plus he caught COVID-19 with most 70-year-olds getting some sort of form of long covid.

    2. He might be federally barred from office. On March 4, 2024, his insurrection trial will start and if he is found guilty it would be very difficult for any legal system to state he can still hold federal office.

    3. He might not even win the primary much less the federal election. There are a lot stronger republican candidates out there and the GOP is starting to see that Trump is a dividing force. If they don’t go with him, they might split the vote between him and a GOP, if they do go with them, they might split the vote to Democrats.

    Lastly and this is like 3.5, Napovointerco might be enacted. If that ever happens the GOP might not win another election. It’s essentially a state pact that these states will honor voting with the national popular vote regardless of what the people in the states vote for. It’s almost at 270 electoral votes. At that point, it will be enacted and the national popular vote will be the deciding factor going forward. The Electoral College will be dead. This also has an interesting side effect that it might cause a civil war.

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      7 months ago

      I think the electoral college itself could also cause a civil war given time and larger differences between the popular vote and who is declared winner.

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      7 months ago

      Napovointerco might be enacted.

      I don’t see how. According to Wikipedia, states with 203 electoral votes have passed legislation - but states with pending legislation only bring in another 65 votes, which is still short of the 270 votes needed - and that’s only if all the states with pending legislation pass it instead of sending it back to committee, deferring it, or outright defeating it.

      It may pass eventually, but I certainly don’t see it happening before next year’s elections.