I’ve seen tables flipped, tv sets punched through, furniture thrown. And that’s just in the home.

How does one get to a place mentally where burning and destroying things, over a sportsball game seem a reasonable thing to do?

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    I dunno.

    But I work in contract security. When the Super Bowl came to Minneapolis, it was one of the worst nights of My working-life.

    I was walking through a bar to touch bases with their management (the bar was tenants of my client,) and a philly fan broke a bottle off and tried to shank me. That was the night before. All I did to provoke it? Walk behind him.

    Another incident the night before, 3 guys were kicking the shit out of an oldish guy while two howling wives egged them on.

    They were late twenties early thirties, their victim was a late-50’s black guy.

    Their only “reason”? He was wearing a Vikings cap.

    Over all, the only night that we had more arrests happen was when the city decided to set up a soft checkpoint for a trump rally with a day’s notice to my client next door.

    When ever I start listing incidents other Philly fans are quick to say “no we’re just passionate!”

    Green Bay is passionate. They dress up in their cosplay and drink all the beer then go home. (Though, probably some of the best tailgating you’ve ever seen…) they don’t beat the shit out of people.

    • Fondots@lemmy.world
      9·
      2 months ago

      As a philly native, I will say that the vast majority of philly fans are more reasonable levels of passionate, I’ve never personally been around anyone getting violent over a game, at worst just a lot of yelling and cursing directed at no one in particular.

      But yeah, our worst fans definitely have a way of going the extra mile into the heart of crazytown.

      Philly has a tough image and we’re proud of it and embrace it, but a lot of assholes don’t understand that being tough doesn’t mean being needlessly violent, offensive, and destructive.

      Personally, I like the lunatics here that climb light poles and think of the city greasing them up as a challenge, that’s the kind of crazy fan I want to represent my city.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        2 months ago

        that didn’t take long.

        I mean, seriously. You’re aware that after a 49er’s game that turned violent, Eagles added jail cells - oh I’m sorry, the proper term is “holding cell”- to deal with all that… “passion”. and… no. I don’t mean a holding room that locks. they had full on jail cells. and before that, Veteran’s Field didn’t just have jail cell- it had a full on court room.

        There’s also those incidents with the D-cell batteries. Plural. Totally normal fan-rivalry things to do. totally.

        then there’s that time that eagle’s fans beat up Cheif Zee (redskin’s super fan.)- broken legs, ribs, and other injuries.

        And what the fuck did Millie ever do to get harassed by crowds of phillie fans? she was a 90+ year old grandmother for crying out loud. the only thing she did to get the attention was get recognized for being an old vikings fan. Even then you had to drag out your geriatric fan and that wasn’t enough?

        sure. Not all eagle’s fans are total assholes. most fans “aren’t that bad”. But you do realize, when other teams say the same thing, they’re talking about people that are singing a little too loud, or shouting obnoxious jingles or maybe they just got a little drunk. (I’m not kidding about packer’s fans drinking all the beer.)

        • Fondots@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, astonishingly if you don’t wander into the crowded center city areas that are packed with people and bars, things are a lot more subdued.

          There’s something 1½ million people in the city, a lot of whom are watching the game, either at home, in a friends house, or at one of the 1300 or so bars in the city, all spread out over about 140 square miles. If you don’t go seeking out the craziness, it’s easy to not see it in person.

          Not to mention all of the eagles fans in the surrounding suburbs.

          And take a good look at your video, how much actual violence or destructiveness are you seeing there? I’m seeing mostly a big crowd of people milling around outside chanting and yelling at no one in particular. Creating a nuisance or impeding traffic? Sure, hardly a riot or anything of the sort though.

          You have, being generous, maybe a couple thousand people (I’m pretty sure I’ve seen more people turn out to ride in the Philly naked bike ride) gathering around city hall, a major landmark located in the very heart of the city, and doing what? yelling? Maybe 2% of a city where “go birds” passes as a greeting, wandering around outside being a bit rowdy.

          • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 months ago

            Yeah this isn’t really an argument between you guys as much as one saying “the worst of the worst is bad!” and another saying “yeah, they are! But most people aren’t the worst of the worst”.