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    1 month ago

    The Jewish settlers didn’t live in Palestine, they lived in Europe and then moved to Palestine to steal the land. They’re white.

    Just because one ancestor a dozen generations ago lived somewhere doesn’t mean you have a right to evict the actual people living on that land.

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      That thinking is like believing you have the right to expel the people that lives in the house your grandmother lived on but left when she got married. But now the house is yours because “here lived my family”.

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        1 month ago

        Yeah, but then add a dozen or more generations. Not your grandma, your many times removed ancestor from before the printing press or some shit.

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          1 month ago

          I said grandmother to show an example that can’t be used with the “but it’s an historical thing”.

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              To show how dumb is that argument. “My ancestors from 2000 years ago lived there, therefore this land is mine” is as dumb as “my grandmother lived there, therefore this house is mine”. With the same reasoning, Italy could claim all the Mediterranean coast belongs to them. And if it’s from “God gave us this land”, Spain and Portugal divided the Earth (except Europe) for them “because God”. Does this mean Spain and Portugal can claim “their land” back?

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      I don’t agree on wording in the first paragraph, but do agree with the second paragraph.

      What now? Evicting all 8 millions of Israeli to make Hamas happy?

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        1 month ago

        How about ending apartheid and making a multiethnic, multi-religious democratic state from the river to the sea? Israelis can become Palestinian, they don’t need to leave.

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      Palestinians didn’t live in Palestine during that time, either. they migrated when everyone else did.

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        A ton of them just converted from Judaism. This idea that Arabs flooded into Palestine after kicking all the Jews out is racist revisionist history.

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          1 month ago

          that’s not what I said at all.

          they migrated when everyone else did.

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            How am I supposed to read this as anything other than “Palestinians migrated into Israel when the Jews migrated out”? Which, I must reiterate, is a racist myth.