Brilliant! If we simply don’t measure the full impact, the report will indicate much less of an impact! Truly some of the minds of our times went into this.

You probably don’t want any kind of plastics in the kitchen that might come into contact with heat. As a general rule.

I think I didn’t say the right thing when I wrote it isn’t the end of the world. Because I agree that level of control and surveillance is BAD. I really meant to communicate that it isn’t a future doomer scenario. It’s the world we live in RIGHT NOW. And if you don’t like that, it’s not just cashless society that should concern you. It’s not something we can prevent. It’s something we have to undo.

Ok… but most of those negative points are perfectly doable even with cash.

“EVERY TRANSACTION YOU MAKE WILL BE TRACKED YOUR SPENDING HABITS CAN BE LINKED TO YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT” True enough.

“YOU WILL ONLY BE PERMITTED TO SPEND ON THINGS THE GOVERNMENT APPROVES OF. THINGS THAT ARE DEEMED TO BE LUXURIES — MEAT, FUEL, TRAVEL — CAN BE RESTRICTED” This is already true. Things that the government deems illegal are… not legal to buy? And luxuries are already taxed higher than necessities. This already exists as written.

“THERE WILL BE NO ‘BLACK’ ECONOMY. IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE TO AVOID TAX, BUT THEN YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE POCKET MONEY TO CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN AND NEITHER WILL YOU BE ABLE TO BORROW OR LEND MONEY TO FRIENDS WITHOUT THAT BEING TAXED BY THE GOVERNMENT” - Avoiding paying your taxes isn’t the gotcha you think it is. This should be lumped in with the pros. And before anyone @'s me over the pocket money thing, at least in my country you don’t need to declare stuff like this on your taxes. There’s a threshold for income that below that it’s a waste of EVERYONE’s time to track. So things like allowances and pocket money between friends is just not affected.

“PARKING AND SPEEDING FINES WILL BE TAKEN AT SOURCE, WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF CHALLENGE AND POSSIBLY EVEN WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE” Why would they? Even in a cashless society it’s still possible you simply do not have the cash in your account. They would still need to be able to charge you for it later. They would also still need to do due process for fines. If we are not doing due process in the legal system, we have big problems beyond if we are using cash or card.

“IF YOU PROTEST THE ACTIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT, YOUR MONEY CAN BE SWITCHED OFF. IF YOU THINK THAT’S UNLIKELY, IT’S ALREADY HAPPENED TO TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CANADIANS WHEN THEY PROTESTED AND IT ALSO HAPPENED TO A BRITISH JOURNALIST” - Is this about the Flu Trucks Clan? Well the way the Canadian gov’t handled that was pretty shit. I’ll give you that. But um. We still have cash in Canada. And if they can turn off your ability to spend in a cash society then this is at the worst a net zero. Neither better nor worse.

“A CASHLESS SOCIETY MEANS THE END OF HUMAN FREEDOM” What? The onus is on you to explain this one further.

The remainder of points highlighted are a call to action so I don’t have anything to say on that. Protest digital ID if you want. ID is ID though. Even with paper ID it’s still registered and tracked. And if they want to track our movements all they need to do is ask apple and google or buy the data from 3rd parties. It’s easier than implementing all the scary stuff the OP mentioned. It’s cheaper. And you don’t need a warrant to buy data from a broker. Pretty much all the scare mongering here is actually in place already.

All that being said, I don’t think moving to a totally cashless society would be good either. But these talking points aren’t actually the end of the world that OP would like you to believe.

I haven’t quite checked off cocaine addicts yet… but I think every other box may or may not be at least somewhat applicable.

Even if only 10% of plastic gets recycled, it’s still a lot of plastic that doesn’t end up in the landfills or incinerators. It’s still good to do. Only now we know we still have to demand more regulation on the companies who produce it all and not accept another recycling campaign in place of real action.

It was always an empty gesture designed from the start to put the onus on the general population so that plastic could still be produced and sold at ever increasing rates without any responsibility for its outcome. This is also why the least effective part of reduce, reuse, recycle was always emphasized.

I think it’s really good that for once people are thinking about the end of a product before the waste becomes a problem.

I’m NO LAWYER but it seems to apply to US residents only? EU has their own provisions written down where discord begrudgingly follows the laws there. But for non-eu non-us people this doesn’t seem to apply to us. “‍IF YOU’RE A U.S. RESIDENT, YOU ALSO AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING MANDATORY ARBITRATION PROVISIONS. PLEASE READ THIS SECTION CAREFULLY – IT MAY SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS, INCLUDING YOUR RIGHT TO FILE A LAWSUIT IN COURT:”

For folks who will continue using discord, and that’s probably most folks, it would be a good time to change your account email to an alias if you haven’t already. They have clearly stated they are about to get sketch AF.

You MUST be trolling lmao

lol I remember that episode!

We’re going to fix traffic I swear