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  • A strawman is taking someone’s genuine argument and then distorting or misrepresenting it to make it easier to attack. A strawman argument isn’t valid and it isn’t paraphrasing. Generally when people paraphrase in good faith, they will ask if they said the paraphrase correctly and will correct themselves if it is incorrect.

    They cannot remove just anything, they have to have a legal basis to do so and can be sued, less government control than now.

    I said propaganda warfare, meaning online propaganda warfare that started in 2016, a new type of warfare. Obviously.

    Again, it is less control than what exists presently already via private companies that would still exist later anyway. We still can advocate for progress even within capitalism and fascism, that’s how we dig out of both.

    Propaganda warfare in my comment is specifically referencing online warfare since 2016, and it is absolutely Putin’s baby.

    You did slightly better on this comment in terms of nonsensical spewing, nice



  • The actual quote:

    Russia has engaged in MASSIVE MASSIVE online warfare, including on Lemmy (eg, you, maybe).

    Including on Lemmy means they have a masive campaign and that includes some bots on Lemmy. Learn to read what is written. Stop strawmanning. Stop pretending you can mind read - that’s also a psychiatric symptom btw.

    Asking if you are a bot because you are parroting pro-Russian talking points when faced with other evidence is not “substanceless” personal attacks lol.

    Putin is an outright fascist.

    BRICS, keep up. This was established numerous comments ago.

    What claim? The claim YOU randomly invented because you strawman so much? You yourself did not disagree that there’s Russian propaganda on Lemmy.

    See, you’ve developed as completely circular, unfalsifiable, reasoning: Russians are behind everything bad - therefore everything bad is Russian, proving that everything bad is from Russia. Once you’ve decided that everything you disagree with is “a Russian talking point” and everyone who disagrees with you is “a Russian puppet” by definition, then yes, everything bad is because of Russian.

    No, this isn’t what I said. Strawman. You know I didn’t say it, because I didn’t use those words, I used other words because they specifically conveyed my actual meaning, which is not the above.

    it’s literally saying that all of your country’s domestic problems are secretly the fault of foreign enemies.

    No, this isn’t what I said. Strawman. You know I didn’t say it, because I didn’t use those words, I used other words because they specifically conveyed my actual meaning, which is not the above.

    then the USA has been actively attacking the entire human race, including the Russian federation, for decades, and Russia is actually normal and brave for standing up to you. But it doesnt’ count as that, you’re just redefining words.

    Yes, the USA has been and is fascist too, all capitalist governments are inherently fascist, this has already been explained to you. This includes Russia too, both countries are fascist. Neither are brave or good for being fascist warmongers and both used the other as a scapegoat to rid themselves of undesirables.

    I’m not “redefining words,” projection on your part.

    People are literally dying, a physical attack, from this propaganda. Measles outbreaks, people eating bad food, gun violence, etc etc. Their deaths are as valid as if they’d been shot directly.

    not just claiming that every single domestic problem is actually part of a foreign conspiracy. By your reasoning here, Nazi Germany wouldn’t have been xenophobic for saying the Judeo-Boleshoviks were attacking them.

    Strawman again.

    Damn, now even trying to challenge the global dominance of the US dollar is warfare. Seems like you just consider anything opposed to the Glorious light of the Exceptional USA as ontologically evil. Just to be clear; this is the most insanely fascistic shit I have seen in a long time. Even Zionists don’t go this far

    Yeah, okay, with this it is clear you’re having a bad mental health episode. I don’t care to be your punching bag for your delusions, mania, and/or psychosis which I’ve politely labeled strawmans and mindreading up to now. The “talking like Qanon” thing is clearly projection on your part. Much of what you said is nonsensical or just wrong, you’ve been informed of that and are unable to adjust or have a good faith argument at any level. You have failed in every comment to actually read the actual words I say and respond to the actual words I say. I may as well not be here lol, and any readers have the info they may want anyway.

    I have no issue with reducing the global power of the USD and I am sympathetic to why other countries would do it. However, they do not care to do it gently, causing death, which needs to be addressed locally starting with acknowledging it.

    The rest - yeah, I’m sure the evil boogeyman narrative your brain invented towards me is really insanely fascist and evil lol. You are a good creative writer and make very spooky characters with very spooky buzzwords. It isn’t me because I didn’t say anything you claim was said, but that other guy you’ve invented is a really scary guy for sure. You are doing great arguing against them and defeating them. They are just so evil.


  • Define “strawman” and define “paraphrasing.”

    You did not paraphrase, you made up an entirely different thing that was never said by me.

    Say something negative about Putin.

    The government moderates it along with the laws we put into place that protect us. Again, they are already doing this without the laws or transparency via private businesses.

    Propaganda WARFARE is new, mostly online, and hasn’t been used like this before ~2016. It is NOT democracy to hear a select few people’s opinion over and over again.

    Capitalism is inherently fascist, see The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal World Order by Gerstle. It cannot be truly democratic due to its inherent fascism, and part of that is the relentless propaganda used during capitalism via commercials, media, etc to sway people from freely consenting and critically thinking. People don’t need “propaganda” to learn about policies, they can watch town halls, debates, talks, etc, discuss them with each other, and freely exchange ideas. (Doesn’t surprise me at all that you are in support of fascist control of info).

    Propaganda warfare is literally fascism, made by fascists, to spread fascism.

    Hey can you say something negative about Putin?


  • Lmfao it isn’t xenophobia to stand up to a nation or nations actively attacking you with huge military campaigns for millions of dollars. It isnt xenophobia to criticize a foreign government engaging in massive human rights abuses including slavery.

    Where have I stated American exceptionalism even once?

    Where have I stated anything McCarthyism related? Do you think modern Russia is communist? Do you think Putin is communist?

    Can you say anything negative about Putin?

    No shit, I don’t support the US doing this shit either.


  • BRICS literal stated purpose is western currency collapse, and they formed a coalition around this stated purpose.

    Russia is a state run by a dictator who is having them do this, so that’s why they are grouped.

    It isn’t “any” story, it is literally about their online warfare.

    Please learn to read

    Please learn a basic good faith argument

    I didn’t say Russia was behind all global issues or all of America’s issues. I listed what Russia has specifically been doing because that was the info missing. I even mentioned Dubai and BRICS as you noted, so you contradict yourself here that I say only Russia is behind anything anyway. But the topic was Russia and Russia has all the blackmail so that is why they are the focus.

    You can’t criticize Putin? Lol you ARE a bot. Not least because you haven’t been able to add to the discussion at all like a normal person.


  • BRICS literal stated purpose is western currency collapse, and they formed a coalition around this stated purpose.

    Russia is a state run by a dictator who is having them do this, so that’s why they are grouped.

    It isn’t “any” story, it is literally about their online warfare.

    Please learn to read

    Please learn a basic good faith argument

    I didn’t say Russia was behind all global issues or all of America’s issues. I listed what Russia has specifically been doing because that was the info missing. I even mentioned Dubai and BRICS as you noted, so you contradict yourself here that I say only Russia is behind anything anyway. But the topic was Russia and Russia has all the blackmail so that is why they are the focus.

    You can’t criticize Putin? Lol you ARE a bot. Not least because you haven’t been able to add to the discussion at all like a normal person.


  • Sorry, you don’t think there’s Russian propaganda on Lemmy? Lol, are you one of them? Your arguments are kinda sus tbh and come across like the fake liberal people trying to cause outrage with buzzwords. Bots (aka human slaves) love misunderstanding words like racism, sexism, xenophobia, and cultural appropriation, accuse people of them in trying to shame people so they won’t keep talking. Won’t work on me. And if you aren’t a bot, then you have the personality of someone making rage bait to avoid torture which is just funny af if that’s what your REAL personality is like.

    Tell me something negative about Putin. Go ahead. Tell me something negative about Xi’s government. Go on. These are dictators, should be easy.

    Do you understand what a lie is? Making a connection isn’t a lie. If I see 1+1+1=? and answer 3, I’m not lying, I’m just completing the equation.

    It isn’t “anything bad,” it’s literally example after example of them doing exactly this, along with some of their talking points so you can compare to other puppets talking points, like yours.

    It literally isn’t xenophobia, lol. Being actively attacked by an administration and standing up against it is normal and bravery. Is Ukraine being xenophobic when they say Russia is attacking them too? What about Poland and Romania? What about how Lebanon is investigating possible Russian connections to that giant blast in Beirut because they think they caused it - is that xenophobia, to investigate a possible giant bomb and ask for accountability for it?

    The state of Russia is engaging in warfare - that’s true. BRICS literal stated purpose is to collapse western currency. It is economic warfare. It will and has killed people. It’s okay to say that’s wrong lol


  • I think you need a nap or something, because what you said isn’t anything I wrote.

    First, the existence of the post office doesn’t stop you from using UPS or Fedex. Likewise, a government forum wouldn’t stop you from using other forums or social. And the government already got involved in socials like TikTok (deal currently being made), Truth Social, Twitter, and Meta - but because they aren’t explicitly OWNED by the government, we don’t have the same legal protections and cannot sue for rights that would normally be protected like free speech.

    Just like how USPS can’t open packages without a warrant, but UPS and Fedex can just open whatever. The government gives you special protections that you can enforce via lawsuits.

    The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists, because it would be much harder to make sock puppets and bots. FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy, it’s fascism and fascist control of info. We should each get a say, and what we say should stand on merit, not money. We deserve real communication so we can work on issues.

    I already explained I love the Russian people, but not their fascist government.

    Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit