I would argue you can absolutely disprove it, empirically. By demonstrating. Just do the thing and go “wow it didn’t take forever!”

They’re “going fishing” trying to find probable cause to get you out of the vehicle and allowed to search you and it.

If you say you’re going to / from the bar? Well obviously you’ve been drinking, please step out of the vehicle.

I don’t always say “officer you don’t need that information” I just say something like “home/library” since it provokes the least amount of questions.

I don’t give them my license, I only need to show it to them. They can copy down the relevant information needed to verify it’s legitimacy the same way they do when they take it.

I don’t need to roll down my window, I only need to communicate with them. They can speak up and I am more than capable of yelling so they don’t misunderstand anything. An open window is not needed unless someone plans on reaching through it, which neither of us need to do.

I don’t need to give them my insurance card, they only need to know it’s current and for this vehicle. Again they can copy down relevant information and call the insurance company later, which they weren’t going to do anyway.

I don’t need to tell them where I was, or where I was going, as it’s none of their business and not relevant to the stop, which was likely for failing to signal properly, or speeding due to a missed sign.

There’s plenty you dont HAVE to tell them, give them, or show them, but if you’re going to do any of the above, know your state and local laws regarding these, and don’t be intentionally rude, since they’re already going to be pissy.

Also note: it’s much easier to get through this sort of interaction if you’re white. We all know cops are racist shitbags just looking for an excuse.

I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, just someone who is tired of being targeted in the areas around Columbus Ohio that are known for pulling people over for the slightest of infractions in order to go fishing for a reason to arrest someone.

Nah, continue to belt out incorrect lyrics, possibly even singing “I don’t know the words” in the process.

It’s more likely to get a chuckle “with” you, rather than a giggle “at” you, IMO because everyone can relate.

Even people who do professional performances and sing all the time can swap verses, or even straight up word substitute with songs they don’t practice all the time.

Mkultra is STILL treated like some nut job conspiracy theory.

I bring it up as example of how the government will do whatever to whoever and lie for decades, fuck the consequences.

People look at me like I’m crazy, and plenty have even straight up told me mk ulta isn’t real, is just a conspiracy, just an excuse for hippies who did too many drugs, any number of “that didn’t happen” excuses. Including “if it actually happened, we would know”. To which I responded “THEY FUCKING ADMITTED IT” and that was the end of the conversation because I cursed and therefore lost an “argument” I didn’t know I was in…

Ohio is crazy…

View it from the perspective of someone who doesn’t hate McDonald’s and the grease their food slid in on.

I’m sure there’s someone out there who thinks the fallout series is all bad.

They’re objectively wrong of course, but they still hold that belief.

It allows rainwater to be absorbed rather than running off causing flooding.

There’s an old theater I performed at twice in Southern Ohio. Built before the Civil War, and surrounded by brick buildings, a brick street out front, brick alley, and brick parking lot area.

The second time I was there, the street had been paved, as had the back parking area, and large portion of surrounding alleys. Only the single side alley was still brick.

The first time it rained the week I was there, the basement, while not flooded completely, had so much water running through it to the sunken boiler room, the owners had to toss down some quick 2x4 walkways so nobody was ruining costumes and footwear or slipping and suing. The walls of the basement looked like mini waterfalls.

I popped outside during a lull and the back parking area and alley were basically acting as a funnel, pushing all the water right up to the sides of the building.

I just checked a satellite map view and it looks like they’ve at least re-paved the back alley (don’t know if it drains any better but it’s clearly much darker and there’s lines painted) and the building beside it is gone and instead there’s a ton of grass. So maybe it’s better, but I’m sure they shortened the remaining life of the building by a ton.

Nobody needs/wants the white liberal to speak for them, but another voice in the crowd demanding something surely can’t be a bad thing?

It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong, you know?

Completely unrealistic.

The cops would have been there already dragging people out the doors to beat them away from the cameras inside.

“oh a new form of power generation? Sweet! looks inside it’s making steam to spin a turbine…”

That’s why they scream until they die. They held it in all that time.

Well, when you come back and read this I hope you had a good trip, since by now (2 hours later) you should be feeling it.

I decided after 3 bad trips, I’m just okay with not trying again.

Hope you have a great ride! If you see the Sky Snake, tell her I said hi.

Lmao Tone is hard to read, I wasn’t upset so if I came across that way my apologies, I was just adding more info in response to points you had raised.

I would assume if they meant it as some kind of a dig, they wouldn’t accept the invitations to hammock with us. Their tone was friendly, it’s just not a term I’ve heard and given the different comments so far, it seems to be a mixed bag as to whether other people would consider it an insult or a compliment.

Really though given the context, I’m going to take it as a compliment even if it was meant as an insult.

I haven’t read it in full in well over 15 years, but that comment made me go find it.

I am not okay today if this is making me cry and I just woke up an hour ago…

I love it

No joke, when I saw the thumbnail I was just about to go looking through my photos because my dog looks very similar (terrier Chihuahua mix so his snout is a little longer) and he loves wrapping up in my tortilla pattern blanket.

10/10 doggo

I have no job currently, my clothes are mostly 5+ years old with most of my stuff being around 10 years old from my last retail job when I got them discounted and on clearance, my car rolled off the line before I was conceived and has the damage that says it lives in deer country, and my food comes from wherever is cheapest.

And they all know these things since we talk about such things at meets along with basically every other topic. pretty much everyone is in the same boat, and with only one exception we all live with roommates and parents.

If you’re thinking of a 2010 hipster with a man-bun and Abercrombie clothes driving their Leaf from the iPhone store to the fancy food market where everything is 5x the price because someone put the word “organic” in front of “tomato”… I mean, imagine me however you wish, but we are definitely more the type to live in a log cabin we built ourselves away from any kind of technology. I like what gadgets I do have, but I’d trade them for “not living in capitalism hell” any day.

Lmao “upper”

I have no job currently and can’t afford more than basics for food, but thanks for making assumptions.

A bit more of a relatable explanation than UD gave me, and honestly I doubt it was meant negatively as most of the people in this group are very left leaning and while a few aren’t quite “paint a brick rainbow and smash a cop’s window” levels yet, they’re certainly closer than anyone else in my life. We have discussed camping so several at least enjoy outdoorsy stuff.

I like my gadgets if I could live in the woods with 15 other people and grow out own food and not have to worry about dying of gangrene I’d give all my things up in a heartbeat.

By this metric, I’ll be “crunchy” over “silky” any day of the week.