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Haha I’m actually in love with this comment.

Though most of what you described isn’t hostile toxicity, their hearts in the right place & they want to spread privacy & security. Just not the best way to sell your ideals to someone.

I’m just imaging your last comment, its glorious. Maybe I should just start memeing about how great GrapheneOS is rather then being so serious about it.

Thank you for this great read.

I find it commendable you’re continuing a fight for what you believe in. Loyalty to your version of the true bitcoin.

Though I question whether programmable money is actually a good thing. We can program Monero already. Its called payment terminals, automatically transferring funds, processing payments, checking balances, etc, etc. Thats what programmable money should be & its easily handled with third party tools.

Do we actually want feature creep in our money? What does programmable money actually solve? Also is money, the right tool to be used for solving those issues? Utility chains like ETH, SOL, LINK, or any other smart contract cryptos might be a better fit for decentralized high attack cost programs then our medium of exchange. For the rare overlap between the 2 luckily its possible to wrap Monero, Bitcoin Cash & any other digital currency into a utility crypto.

Also why would the Monero community need to bring Monero’s privacy to BCH? As much as I respect the BCH community, if they want privacy, their free to do it themselves. Monero is open source after all, so they can take it upon themselves to add these privacy measures to BCH.

If Bitcoin Cash ever has better privacy then Monero & the market decides its the new premier privacy coin, then I would happily use the “real” bitcoin. I would miss ASIC resistant mining though, I believe CPU mineability to extremely important for real decentralization. But it would be nice to transact privately in the legacy of Satoshi once more.

I agree with that sentiment fully, just because something is open source doesn’t mean it’s automatically secure. Though when an extremely popular project’s entire focus is high security & the specific eyes on the project are the exact people who are professionals in security, I’m more inclined to trust that it would be pretty hard for Daniel to slip in a critical flaw into the code.

Its just to me the whole idea that one man can sabotage a project of this scale seems pretty overboard. GrapheneOS is a great tool. A lot of people hated Edison, he was a huge ass with an even larger ego, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use DC electricity. I would argue that if you dislike Daniel McKay, that same thought process should still apply. You may not think he’s the greatest guy, personally I don’t have any strong opinions on him. But what he’s done is undoubtedly extremely helpful to anyone concerned with both privacy & security.

I’ve criticized aspects on GrapheneOS before & have gotten well thought out & reasonable reasons why they made the decisions they do. They took the time to address my concerns respectfully & even linked independent research that supported their position.

Also I am not an active member of the GrapheneOS community, just an enjoyer of the project. So unless you’ve actually joined their community & tried engaging with them respectfully, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Every single interaction I’ve had with them has been positive. Anytime I’ve looked in their chat rooms I see people helping out new users & answering questions I imagine have been asked hundreds of times.

Stop listening to what other people say, just go & see for yourself.

I can vouch that these are all independent people. You’re clearly the delusional one here, like whats even going on in your head?

If you think I’m also Daniel as well, then just search up my username. I guess Daniel (which is of course me) is a big time enjoyer of hacking roblox. Wherever do I, (clearly Daniel) find the time to manage the full lives of all these people. Must just be the most efficient person on earth.

You just look like an idiot right now because he’s not a sock puppet. Just look in any online chat room associated with GrapheneOS, Tranquil has an extremely well established identity.

I’ve even seen him myself helping people in the community for years now & Tranquil is very active. But okay, enjoy being a gullible pawn following whatever maltfield says.

I don’t like this take. “Put on your big boy pants & ship code” like what? Do the GrapheneOS devs owe us this? Absolutely not!

If you use the project, you should be more grateful for everything their doing. It is essentially charity work & their investing a lot of their time to fight back against surveillance & privacy threats. If they wanna ban people from their communities thats entirely their choice because their doing the world a favour by doing all this.

GrapheneOS is open source, just because you disagree with who runs it doesn’t mean the code itself is bad. Its an extremely popular project now & there are a lot of eyes on it.

It has long since evolved beyond something Daniel can simply destroy as a whim & any attempt to sabotage it would be met with a roaring backlash & warnings from pretty much everyone in the privacy & security space.

I think you’re good to keep on using GrapheneOS, there simply exists no better option. Though if you are set on switching I guess CalyxOS (if they remain in operation) or BraxOS would be the best alternatives.

Legit 2 digit IQ, Tranquil is not a sock puppet. I’ve seen him in GrapheneOS chat rooms occasionally over the span of a few years during the time I’ve occasionally looked through them. From what I’ve seen he’s very active & is constantly helping people out.

I’ve been using it for a few years now & its absolutely great! I have nothing but good things to say about GrapheneOS & have even got a few other people I know irl to also switch to it. Once they try it they typically love it.

How much privacy should we have? Lets aim for absolute secrecy, pull back as hard as we cost effectively can & see how far the arrow flies.

Though its amazing to see other established cryptos like BCH & LTC push the cutting edge even further.

You don’t need to worry about buying it directly though if you don’t have exchange options like Kraken. So long as you can buy any crypto, you can easily swap to Monero. Tons of swap services or in wallet swap providers.

If you want to get the absolute lowest fees when swapping to Monero you could use Trade Ogre & swap currency pairs directly. They only charge a 0.2% fee per trade. The interface is a bit intimidating but the whole buying another crypto then swapping to Monero can be essentially free.