problem is, you need the underdog to actually fail at least once

Wednespanktime

now imagine this same scenario where you have a choice between driving your truck vs. public transit or bicycle infrastructure. Sure you may not use it but others may no longer be required to own a car and drive it for such short distances in the first place.

the net difference of owning a car vs not needing one and hence not owning it goes beyond just monetary gains.

The argument is not one based on changing behavior at an individual level. Its about policy and urban design.

how much do you spend on fuel commuting to the city? that 1M in the city is buying you a lot more than the 600 sq ft.

from your 420k suburban home, what’s the average distances to your: doctor, groceries, place of worship or study or work?

Do you own a car? Whats the median distance of commutes in a typical year for you?

We also shouldn’t forget time cost of your commutes. Median time spent commuting in a year you could have spent doing other things.

Sure i agree with you that suburb is better if you have public transit connecting you to the city from your home in the suburbs and you use it regularly.

As a person who CAN imagine and hear my mind speak… I can’t imagine that.

the liberals need to understand that too and stop being fascists.

“not forced to use them”

This ignores obnoxious hurdles in place to make the free tier as shitty as possible so people buy.

“cover your own ass for mistakes” Well can you personally guarantee that these asshats won’t create traps and gotcha’s along the way?

As a Software Engineer my list is only slightly longer and has these additional companies:

Oracle

Microsoft

Google

I don’t think you understand that not all creatures are tortured.

yeah where’s that bullionaire/oligarch/CEO list?

Microsoft is no longer permitted on my PC

This post and several comments agreeing with this I feel are made with some level of ignorance on “Civil Disobedience”.

Minimizing participation in the orphan-crushing machine but also debating politics on available platforms are not antithetical. Debating online is as important as doing the rest of the things that are perceived as “real” worthwhile pursuits. For instance: How can we pursue a cure for cancer if the political climate ensures scientists are scorned and distrusted? If evangelising about the “real” problems you care about is labelled as politics then can you really make progress without “political” action such as boycotting, protests and civil disobedience?

In the same vein, doing the small things in protest is the stepping stones to doing bigger things. It works the same way for any pursuit. Why shouldn’t I practice discipline with my disdain for all the evil in small ways while also pushing for more?

Jeff Bezos makes billions of dollars, But He didn’t get the $100 from me this year. Sure that sounds like a waste of time and energy for not much impact. But It didn’t cause me any hardship. But believe me that $100 had either a compounding effect on my own wealth this year or to some people i gifted essential food to. That impact was felt a lot more by me or one of the people i gifted food or essentials to.

Just, please, stop with idiotic replies accusing people to be enslaved in the system because it’s an insult to anyone who is currently looking for a solution for cancer, saving lives as a firefighter, building houses where people will live, growing crops, and even keeping up internet so people can praise the revolution against the machine from their bedrooms.

First of all, I didn’t accuse anybody of anything here except try to push back against what I percieved as a comment that is disapproving of debate:

Ping me when you changed the world with whatever you are actually doing behind that keyboard 👋

Secondly, Minimizing participation in the orphan-crushing machine but also debating politics on available platforms are not antithetical. Debating online is as important as doing the rest of the things you say are “real” worthwhile pursuits. For instance: How can we pursue a cure for cancer if the political climate ensures scientists are scorned and distrusted? If evangelising about the “real” problems you care about is labelled as politics then can you really make progress without “political” action such as debating?

In the same vein, doing the small things in protest is the stepping stones to doing bigger things. It works the same way for any pursuit. Why shouldn’t I practice discipline with my disdain for all the small evil while also pushing for more?

Edit: Add the quote that i felt was misunderstanding why we need to protest in our own small ways.

Edit2: I think we are in agreement. I misread the thread. My comment is actually a refutation of the main post.

It’s so hard for people to agree that we should be doing something. Instead you argue that you are not going to do anything just out of spite all because OP personally may not be doing anything but their words are a bit preachy. If OP was a hypocrite but they still said the right thing why would you deliberately disagree? What would motivate you to act?

the “Socialism” is in quotes as were aren’t really talking about actual socialism. Its now a boogeyman dogwhistle used by rich people to steal public property and convert it into private capital.

literature is boring, hearing crazy stories is more interesting ^That’s a joke please don’t downvote me too much^

Being forced to do these things seems childish

thats a dishonest argument. One has a money assembly line straight to a billionaire’s house. The other’s assembly line that has a possibility to be used for public good.

it may not seem like it but… being offline is the best thing you can do to your mental health. No need to overwhelm your brain with stuff happening elsewhere when you already have to deal with stuff closer to home. Being aware is generally better than being ignorant but it shouldn’t disable your daily life.

its a paid platform where engagement (i.e bickering in the comments section) is near absent. And the content is allowed to address themes that make main stream media blush.