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vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English22·13 days agonone of us actually care about how anyone else’s weekends were or how the other person’s kids are doing.
got it, you ask to fake interest in the other person so he feels valued. Seems ridiculous and a waste of intellect.
It seems the best I can do is working alone. These rituals are way too complicated for me.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto Asklemmy@lemmy.ml•what does it mean being nice to your coworkers to you?English2·13 days agodoes this also work with women? most nurses I work with are women and are simply incapable of being silent more than 2 minutes.
they may be offended in short term. but in the long you will have more respect.
they WILL be offended and proceed to furiously talk behind my back and destroy my credibility
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto Asklemmy@lemmy.ml•what does it mean being nice to your coworkers to you?English31·13 days agoI’m very introverted and to me any kind of question about me is a prying one: my age, where I was born, how long I’ve been living where I am. I simply don’t get why I have to tell my coworkers about this, nor I understand why they get offended if I don’t answer the question. If I’m fired or I quit I’m not going to see them ever again. Who cares?
I’m a nurse and at my hospital there are rituals that bore me but anyone else finds, apparently, great: after report, talking time, usually 30 minutes. They talk about boring stuff, are loud and obnoxious, I simply don’t understand why adults act like this. I read to pass the time, but have to be there with them because we’re officially working. This happens at least three times per shift: once more to have lunch (for whatever reason we ALL must have lunch together, even if it means not having your own chair) and after charting, where, once again, I must remain with them because that’s officially working time. If I leave, have a seat in the pause room and start reading, I get yelled at, no matter than I can also hear the bell from there.
It gets very boring. God my new job cannot start soon enough.
I don’t have the luxury of having my own working station.
I’ve started to do extra chores just not to have to hear them. It also reduces the chance of them asking me about me.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English11·13 days agobeing nice is all it takes.
if you mean I have to do this I shouldn’t even waste my time and look for jobs where I work alone. Step 2 is already Get to know your coworkers which for the most part, are irrelevant to me. And I can’t fake that.
Saying hi is not enough?
I have no problem with those who have something interesting to say but most of them for the most part care about stuff so asinine it makes me want to kill them and then myself.
Either I learn really fast to deflect very successfully or I start working alone. To keep my sanity.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English13·13 days agoYou don’t have to socialize. But being a decent person means sacrificing your comfort for others’ sometimes.
you seem to imply there’s something like a middle point between fully socializing and being decent, which I guess means talking but less? Is this so?
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto Asklemmy@lemmy.ml•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English21·13 days agoYeah every single one of your coworkers is childish on an elementary school level, sure.
I guess I should’ve written ‘my coworkers sometimes behave like elementary school children’ which is every time they have nothing to do. This is what I feel. I guess to them, they ain’t being childish but engaging. To me it still feels childish.
You either work with a ton of real weirdos, or more likely are way overemphasizig to get people to take your complaints more seriously.
I don’t believe I’m overemphasizing. This is how perceive reality. And I haven’t even started with the patient population
Your perception of yourself and your coworkers is not as objective and devoid of emotion as you think.
you are right, everything I wrote is how I perceive reality, which is, mostly subjective, but to me it still feels objective, if that makes sense. I don’t believe my post (the one that started the thread) is objective, it’s how I perceive my coworkers.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English23·14 days agoYou don’t sound ND, you just sound like you don’t care to change. That’s different.
the people who criticize me are not that important to me that warrant I change to some version of what they consider better. I’ve reached a point where it doesn’t make sense anymore to try to be a better, more knowledgeable professional but simply finding a job where people leave me alone. At least I’d be happier.
I guess I’m full misanthrope now
I guess it’s ‘good’ I can ‘change’ if I so decide? but really, change, for what?
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto Asklemmy@lemmy.ml•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English23·14 days agoThey demand authenticity and complain that people express emotions in the same sentence.
wait, you are right. My coworkers are authentic and they get along among themselves, whereas my way of being authentic seems to be the complete opposite. They are authentic being silly, loud and childish, I am authentic reading a book and not yapping.
We are simply incompatible. I mean its sad people believe a workplace is like an elementary school, but, what can I do to change it? Nothing. I’m glad I’m leaving. In future, I’ll look for jobs where I don’t have to endure silly people like this, a work with as less human contact as possible, or at least with no needy patients that demand you listen to their rants and become their therapist for 4 hours per shift. God I hate that.
The whole post can be summarized as “Life would be so much better if other people’s thoughts and behaviours were organized around me and my preferences”.
while true, I’d suggest ‘Life would be so much better if other people’s thoughts were left unsaid and coworkers let me work’
this is a chance to start looking for better fitting jobs.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto Asklemmy@lemmy.ml•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English11·14 days agoI’m in my 50s, always feel like an alien, and still think I’m 19yo.
don’t let anyone take your inner child away. Don’t let society change this about you.
I’m guessing that wasn’t what you wanted to hear.
it’s ok, the book is already helpful. At this point I have no expectations about society anymore. It’s survival mechanisms what interest me.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English22·14 days agowow, what a beautiful post.
Autism makes it hard to think outside a tried and true path. That rigidity is difficult to deal with, but may be worth looking into.
what do you mean ‘may be worth looking into.’?
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English13·14 days agobecause some people here offer good advice
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English23·14 days agoI’d wager the people you’re having negative interactions with are picking up on that rather than your introversion.
I don’t know, my soon to be former workplace is like a primary school: established coworkers settle in, start yelling, are obnoxious, care about ludicrously stupid stuff I simply don’t care about. This goes on for 30 minutes. every day.
I’m trapped: if I leave for these 30 minutes they go find me to ask what am I doing, usually reading something interesting on my smartphone without them yapping.
Gossiping has already started at this point.
To avoid this I’ve settled for reading what interests me together with them which is not as good as it sounds but apparently placates them.
I still don’t understand how adults can behave so childish.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English22·14 days agoI am many people.
don’t you find it tiring? It’s extremely draining to me to fake being something I am not, specially if faking implies I have to act like an extroverted interested in a coworker’s life, including his sexual one.
One I had a coworker go on a full republican rant about how this country is going to sh%t, so… what do I do with people like this? I simply don’t care about their beliefs.
I like how you present this as a choice and not an imposition.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English26·14 days agoit’s not my job to entertain you. you speak like an extroverted neurotypical who thinks he knows better.
I already see extroverts upvoting you :D
do you have the ability to listen to boring stories with a smile on your face?
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I'm on the spectrum. How do I live the rest of my life?English42·14 days agoI wouldn’t phrase it that way but if you must I’d concentrate on people. Societal expectations are not important to me, it’s not something I strive to follow. Where did you get that from? Societal expectations are a form of unconscious, self imposed control.
To you question,about people: what bothers and triggers me is people constantly asking why I don’t talk more, why they feel offended if I answer asking why they talk so much, also feeling offended if I prefer to do my pause alone instead of with them, the talking behind my back which to me equals being unauthentic, misidentifying lack of interest in their lives and wanting to simply do my job as hostility.
Other people are not important to me because I care about them (at least coworkers). They are “important” because I care how they can make my life difficult, the unnecessary drama they create, I don’t want a workplace where I have to fake interest in them so they don’t feel offended and start badmouthing you.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How do I stop having expectations at the workplace?English12·5 months agojust pointing out how you post to rant pal.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How do I stop having expectations at the workplace?English12·5 months agoand yet you fail to name any of the faults you claim I have. I commend you for your insightful, based post. Keep it up.
I’m not a licensed therapist
no shit on that one.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How do I stop having expectations at the workplace?English1·5 months agoAnd I am extra vigilant, take responsibility for the safety of those around me at all times.
could you write an example of this? I don’t quite get it.
Say I try to apply this to nursing, it would mean I start checking if my coworkers do their job up to standard, which would be ridiculous, extremely taxing and not my job. Or am I understanding this the wrong way?
I just want to do MY job, not be responsible for other’s lack of structure and laziness.
vestmoria@linux.communityOPto No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How do I stop having expectations at the workplace?English2·5 months agoGood luck friend.
thanks for that
wow… good post