There are public health systems that just won’t offer that operation. Or you’ll have a 1.5 year waiting list. So in the end, unless you’re rich and pay for private insurance, it comes out as the same.
People in Australia do experience medical bankruptcy. It’s incredibly rare now. But it’s true. But it used to be so much worse before we had a public health system. And health outcomes were worse as well. And it cost more.
No, they got sick, now they have a long lasting condition and can’t work because of it.
They did get treatment but can’t be cured (as of today long-covid is still a mystery).
They didn’t lose all their money because of the medical bills, they’re losing their money because they can’t work anymore and the state is not giving them “benefits” (horrible word in this case).
One is an issue with healthcare, one is an issue with social welfare, again, not the same thing.
Complètement diminuées, des personnes atteintes de Covid long font face à des délais de plus deux ans pour savoir si elles auront droit ou non à une rente AI. Incapables de travailler, certaines finissent ruinées.
In english:
Completely disabled, people stricken by long COVID face delays of more than two years to know if they will have disability benefits. Incapable of working, some finish bankrupt.
Is this not an example of medical bankruptcy ie. bankruptcy due to a medical condition?
If you don’t see the difference between the state covering the cost of medical treatment and the state handouts for unemployed, I cannot help you. You are either deliberately obtuse or simply dim.
Yeah, that happens sometimes. But in this case the price of an operation will be drastically cheaper.
I had this situation in Germany, there was a minor operation I needed to have which was not life threatening so the one that insurance covered had a waiting period, so I decided to go pay out of pocket and it was around 800 euro. The cheapest price I could find in US for it started at 11000 dollars.
If you’re disabled and on disability income, it will absolutely not cost you 800 euro. You will be put in front of the queue for the free one. That’s why I, able bodied working person with slightly above median income, had to wait. And I think it’s as fair of a system that is possible under the circumstances.
That’s not how it works in my country. Great that that’s how your country works. The vast majority of those with universal healthcare don’t work like that.
I used to work for a disability advocacy organisation so I can assure you that.
There are public health systems that just won’t offer that operation. Or you’ll have a 1.5 year waiting list. So in the end, unless you’re rich and pay for private insurance, it comes out as the same.
People in Australia do experience medical bankruptcy. It’s incredibly rare now. But it’s true. But it used to be so much worse before we had a public health system. And health outcomes were worse as well. And it cost more.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-18/bob-hawke-what-did-australia-have-before-medicare/11124180
An article just yesterday about the same happening in Switzerland
https://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/2024/article/covid-long-delais-de-2-ans-pour-une-rente-ai-des-malades-dans-la-precarite-28723610.html?rts_source=rss_t
Not it’s not about that at all. This is about someone not getting disability checks, not healthcare, two very different things.
It’s about bankrupcy due to a medical condition.
Yes, resulting from lack of treatment and delay in paying disability benefits.
No, they got sick, now they have a long lasting condition and can’t work because of it. They did get treatment but can’t be cured (as of today long-covid is still a mystery). They didn’t lose all their money because of the medical bills, they’re losing their money because they can’t work anymore and the state is not giving them “benefits” (horrible word in this case). One is an issue with healthcare, one is an issue with social welfare, again, not the same thing.
You are full of shit.
Literally the subheading of the article
Complètement diminuées, des personnes atteintes de Covid long font face à des délais de plus deux ans pour savoir si elles auront droit ou non à une rente AI. Incapables de travailler, certaines finissent ruinées.
In english:
Completely disabled, people stricken by long COVID face delays of more than two years to know if they will have disability benefits. Incapable of working, some finish bankrupt.
Is this not an example of medical bankruptcy ie. bankruptcy due to a medical condition?
If you don’t see the difference between the state covering the cost of medical treatment and the state handouts for unemployed, I cannot help you. You are either deliberately obtuse or simply dim.
Yeah, that happens sometimes. But in this case the price of an operation will be drastically cheaper.
I had this situation in Germany, there was a minor operation I needed to have which was not life threatening so the one that insurance covered had a waiting period, so I decided to go pay out of pocket and it was around 800 euro. The cheapest price I could find in US for it started at 11000 dollars.
For sure. But now imagine your disabled and on disability income, where you get payed 1k a month and are living in poverty.
If you’re disabled and on disability income, it will absolutely not cost you 800 euro. You will be put in front of the queue for the free one. That’s why I, able bodied working person with slightly above median income, had to wait. And I think it’s as fair of a system that is possible under the circumstances.
That’s not how it works in my country. Great that that’s how your country works. The vast majority of those with universal healthcare don’t work like that.
I used to work for a disability advocacy organisation so I can assure you that.
Which country are you talking about?
My experience in; France, Switzerland, Austria, United Kingdom
there’s still waiting lists in the US.