there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭

if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse

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    Edit: incorrect: You don’t need to keep getting them pregnant, you just need to consistently keep milking them. Milk production continues for as long as it is not left untaken. Definitely not vegan at all.

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      That’s absolutely incorrect. It’s a significant amount of time, around 10 months, but you have to repeatedly get a cow pregnant over their useful life in order to continue getting milk from them. They will go dry faster if you don’t milk them, but the cycle of pregnant/lactating/dry/pregnant is fundamental in managing a herd.

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          This is btw one main reason why milk is murder, because many of those calves are often killed for their meat. The other reason is that cows stop beeing productive and are killed way before their natural death, since the replacement calves are rdy to go (I think it was something like after 5 years with their natural life span beeing around 25, but I’m not sure if I remember correctly).

          A bit oversimplified, but just to add a bit more context why vegans don’t drink milk.

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            What about plant-based milk such as Soy Bean Milk - would that work as a suitable less resource intensive alternative?

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              Plant based alternates aren’t necessarily better for the environment or use less resources but they do get around the animal cruelty part.

              They’re just usually woefully terribly for the environment in their farming and production.