• TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
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      tried beer for the first time yesterday, thought it would be better than the smell. Nope. Struggled through 3 sips then gave it to someone else 😭 I don’t really get alcohol tbh. Ive only had like 3 or 4 drinks but no matter what it is they all taste bad :/

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        So, the first thing you need to know about alcohol is it’s an intoxicating drug. It is a depressant, its short-term effects include reduced inhibitions which in the moment can feel like increased confidence, and overall reduction in physical motor skills, plus a mild euphoria. Also makes your face feel slightly numb. That’s most of alcohol’s selling point.

        Alcohol on its own is rather unpleasant to have in your face. A lot of cocktail culture sprung up around hiding alcohol with other flavorings so they’re in any way pleasant to swallow.

        You might try something like whiskey and coke, I’d specifically go with American or Canadian whiskies here; scotch doesn’t really bring the right flavors for this. There’s a reason Jack Daniels or Crown Royal are stereotypes. Vodka can also be a way in; it doesn’t bring a lot of flavor of its own so adding it to fruit juices can get you used to booze within familiar flavor profiles. Don’t worry about sticking to posted recipes, drop a tablespoon of vodka into a tall glass of orange juice and see what it does, then start upping the ratio.

        Get used to that, you may then start exploring cocktails, getting into wine or beer, or neat spirits.

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        I fucking haaaaaaate hops, i hate the smell, i hate the taste, i also hate beer because i can literally smell the fermentation and it smells rotted.

        Plenty of other ways to get turnt out there my friend

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        It’s an acquired taste.

        Unless it’s an IPA, they’re gross and if someone drinks them then I assume they’re just suffering to be pretentious.

        /s?

        As for other booze, just make it like something you like to drink. Fruity vodka and sprite is banging. Rum and coke is a classic. I like creamy stuff so I put vanilla vodka, bailey’s, and milk together.

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          A lot of IPAs are gross. Some are quite good. Bitterness is the most maligned of all tastes. Tons and tons of bitter things that people love and every one of them is a love/hate acquired taste thing.

          Grapefruit, bitter melon, bitter black coffee, any sort of bitter beer (IPAs aren’t the only one), heck even burnt sugar!

          The biggest problem with IPAs is that crappy/inexperienced brewers use the bitterness of hops to cover up brewing defects. This leads to really gross aftertastes or overwhelming bitterness and only hipsters like drinking that crap.

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            For a hot minute there near the end of the Obama administration, craft beer was a thing in this country and we had some excellent beers. Then Trump got elected and I haven’t seen a craft beer that wasn’t an IPA or a token jet black “oatmeal stout” since.

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              The “craft” part got killed in the commercialization of the genre. So it’s become the modern version of Pabst. And there is a contraction of micro breweries at the moment as beer drinkers are slowly learning to pass on all the crap out there.

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                It’s a thing that happened and I’m not sure by what mechanism. 2018, lots of microbreweries and brewpubs most offering a wide variety, by 2021 you’ve got seven IPAs and one token stout on the menu.

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                  We’ve moved on to sours or IPA/sour combos. I drink them because they are delicious to my palate. Always drank my coffee black even as a kid. I like bitter.

                  Honestly I fucking hate the term hipster. I’m not hip, I’m a laborer in my 40s. It’s just another way for people to divide each other.

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                    I dislike the term hipster in large part because it’s a cultural movement that’s nearly a decade dead. It was people being kinda annoying about the realization that small scale products and culture tended to be better value propositions than mass produced versions. In 2025 everyone knows that. We all know that some no name restaurant in town is likely better than Applebee’s for example. Every gamer knows that a good indie game will likely give you more fun for your money than a aaa game (though the aaa one is more consistently likely to not be terrible).

                    Calling someone a hipster in 2025 is like calling someone a hippie peacenik for opposing the Iraq war

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                    Good for you I guess, but why’d the variety have to disappear? I want my ESBs and barleywines back. I haven’t seen a locally made wheat beer since before the pandemic.

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                  Mostly because they can’t be good at all of them. And there were/are a lot of bad brewers out there that don’t care about mastering the craft.

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                  Oh I don’t disagree with you. I’ve looked for decent non-IPA microbrews and have been puzzled at the lack of selection! I just wasn’t aware of the timing.

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                    Where i am every microbrewery has an ipa, and most have a stout, but from there you get all sorts. Rhinegeist famously does whatever they feel like, which makes them a nice safe bet. I love an Oktoberfest and I’m never hurting for choices in the fall. I also love me an American ale and we’ve got one brewery that’s got one that’s gained a fair bit of popularity for good reason.

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        You learn to associate the flavor with the drug and from there you start to appreciate the intricacies of the flavor. A good bourbon is sweet in the same way bakers chocolate is with a vanillin and other flavors picked up from the wood. Meanwhile a light wheat beer is almost like a bitter bread. Wine is like grape juice but with a lot less sweetness and more depth. And if you really want to get drunk without dealing with bitterness or wine flavors you can always go to mead, which tastes like the honey it once was

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        Im not usually a fan of alc but I do enjoy rice wine (korean flavored ones) and choya plum wine. Maybe you could try those? They’re moreso a sweet alcohol and doesnt have that weird earthy bitter taste imo

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      And the taste changes with salt, with heat, with boiling, with cold extraction (like an overnight marinade). You really just have to experiment.