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minus-squareJax@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down8·edit-22 days agoIt’s the age old argument of “It’s not Communism that’s bad, it’s the human element.” Speaking as if any system created by humans will ever be free of the human element, which is of course faulty logic. Edit: The downvote button is not an ‘I don’t like this’ button, trogs. Read the rules.
minus-squarelambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5·4 days ago , which is of course faulty logic …which is why design systems so that when using them we can account for the human element, right? Come on! We have centuries-spanning systems even industries built on that! Engineering, avionics, Yelp reviews…
minus-squareatro_city@fedia.iolinkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 days agoI think you’re forgetting the context of the discussion… Not them but yes but it’s not a feature of the system, it’s a failure of the humans. A system designed to be used by humans has an attribute bound to be exploited by humans and it’s the failure of humans for exploiting it.
minus-squareZorque@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·4 days agoI mean, when the human element is literally not doing communism, yes, that would be a problem.
minus-squareatro_city@fedia.iolinkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 days agoThat’s the problem: for communism to work, it requires perfect beings that act according to how the system is designed. Humans do not do that.
It’s the age old argument of “It’s not Communism that’s bad, it’s the human element.”
Speaking as if any system created by humans will ever be free of the human element, which is of course faulty logic.
Edit:
The downvote button is not an ‘I don’t like this’ button, trogs. Read the rules.
…which is why design systems so that when using them we can account for the human element, right? Come on! We have centuries-spanning systems even industries built on that! Engineering, avionics, Yelp reviews…
I think you’re forgetting the context of the discussion…
A system designed to be used by humans has an attribute bound to be exploited by humans and it’s the failure of humans for exploiting it.
I mean, when the human element is literally not doing communism, yes, that would be a problem.
That’s the problem: for communism to work, it requires perfect beings that act according to how the system is designed. Humans do not do that.