The Firefox ToC discussion pushed me down the browser engine rabbit hole (again). Have you had a chance to daily drive some really good but obscure web engine that is not Gecko (Firefox), WebKit (Apple) and Blink (Chromium)? How viable is it for a complete switch - this includes banking, chatting, logging into websites, etc.
Edit: Added link to the Firefox discussion to give better context to my question.
I don’t think there are any viable engines other than the three you mention. Other browsers than the three you mention are viable, I am typing this in LibreWolf, but they are all based on one of these three engines.
I recently tried Ladybird and it crashes e.g. when I try to access my Lemmy instance. Definitely not viable yet in 2025, but this doesn’t mean it must remain so.
I mean it isn’t even in beta yet.
Zen
Reminds me to check out lynx again.
I’ve used librewolf and it seems good but I’m not a browser expert.
I’m really hoping the new ladybird browser is delivered sooner than expected
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seamonkey but it’s pretty hard to use without much love nowadays with so many incompatible websites. It’s a perfect mail client tho.
Just get Firefox ESR with arkenfox, that should be enough.
Articfox librewolf
GNOME Web (Epiphany)
I kind of daily drive it as I made webapps with it for some services I host (which Firefox still doesn’t offer natively)
The UI is quite nice but it isn’t always the smoothest in terms of performances. Still, a very respectable effort
Epiphany is making headway. It’s gotten much better in the last year or so.
I can still crash it with too many tabs, JS sometimes makes it crash, and the extension experience is bad, but it’s gotten better.
It is covered by WebKit call out though.
I’m trying out waterfox for mobile and librewolf for desktop. No complaints so far
Just don’t try to schedule a video for publication in LibreWolf; its time zone obfuscation will totally have it publish at an unexpected time unless you figure that out first! I’ve been on Waterfox for both mobile and desktop and have enjoyed them equally.
where did you get Waterfox on Android? The Playstore or F droid?
Used F-Droid to download aurora store (open source client for the play store) and used Aurora for waterfox…
thanks, i asked because the Google PlayStore has WaterFox from waterfox.net. Not sure if this is real or fake, because other Fox forks can only be installed from Fdroid like Mull/Fennec
I’ve been using Orion on iOS for a while. It’s not bad.
They are porting to Linux was just announced not long ago… however dont know how long that will take. I am just gonna keep using FF until I can try Orion.
If you want obscure, I can recommend Lagrange. It can browse only gemini pages though, so you can’t visit your favourite html websites.
Gemini is so weird and cool! My first day with it really made me want to start a little microblog on it or something
I don’t know if Librewolf counts as obscure enough but Mozilla’s decisions on things as of late have been very questionable. It’s probably not enough to just use Librewolf but it’s a start…
Zen for desktop: https://zen-browser.app/
Ironfox for mobile: https://ironfoxoss.org/
Deskstop Mullvad and librewolf
Android fennec