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It would have been icing on the cake if trans men would have been in the same protest, also topless, but they weren’t censored lol
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Haha, got’em by the balls! (So to speak)
Malicious compliance at its best.
Damn, these people are bold as fuck. Get it!
In America most men are overweight or obese and have pendulous lumps on their chests with nipples attached. Personally I don’t love seeing them, but when the weather is right, they are all over the goddamn place. It’s absolutely ludicrous that women can’t do the same. If there were any logical rule it would be don’t show your chesticles unless you are a woman who uses them for feeding a child OR everybody gets to have their tits out regardless of any gender types. Pick one and go with it, but the current laws are base AF.
Isn’t it technically legal there for women to be topless, too?
Edit: a bit dated, but it seems that they can go topless only in a few state.
Austin actually has a city ordinance with more or less this exact logic. Once you’ve seen a dozen or so average women with their chests uncovered at the pool, it loses any excitement it may have initially held.
Everyone can choose to have their tits out!
My kind of party!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call a brilliant catch-22 situation.
actually proud of Scotland for once, not the government but the people
It’s the UK supreme court, not a Scottish court, that decided to stomp over all the progress we had made with trans rights.
The Scottish Parliament tends to be considerably more left wing than the UK Parliament. Left to their own devices they would probably be much more like a Scandinavian country.
But actually, yes, the Scottish people are indeed awesome.
Yeah the government was kind of referring to the UK government there, they seem to ruin everything
The Scottish and Irish have been saying that for hundreds of years
Legendary behavior. Bigots can choke on it
Rad.
Love the message, but the blurb isn’t correct. Police couldn’t not arrest them because it would define them as a woman, outraging public decency and similar laws don’t require specific genders.
The police in Edinburgh aren’t going to do anything. People get their tits ‘n’ bits out regularly “for art/paganism”
I had a look further into this, because I wanted to better understand what factors might cause an act to be considered indecent exposure (or outraging public decency). This led me to some guidance on naturism and other non-sexual nudity, from the crown prosecution service.[1] It appears that having an “intention to cause alarm or distress” may be relevant for protests like this — arguably the entire point of the protest is to use the shock value of the nudity as a protest.
That being said, I think it’s a bold move and possibly an effective protest. Even if public indecency laws are gender neutral, it would still be a strong message if any of these women got arrested for this — the reason why these women are capable of causing alarm or distress by going topless is because these are “female presenting nipples” (to use a heavily-memed phrase from the Tumblr porn ban era)
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It appears that having an “intention to cause alarm or distress” may be relevant for protests like this — arguably the entire point of the protest is to use the shock value of the nudity as a protest.
I was looking at this, too, it looks like public nudity is legal, and I don’t think peaceful protest counts as disorderly conduct. The policing aid cites relevant law & provides a decision aid. It states
Naturists have a right to freedom of expression which only engages criminal law if they commit sexual offences or use disorderly behaviour that they intend to or are aware may be disorderly within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress.
A decision aid clarifies
Decision aid for responding officers
Is there a clear sexual motivation to the subject’s actions?
↓ No
Has the person been ‘disorderly’ and caused another person ‘actual’ harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this or the complainant finding it personally distasteful or offensive)?
↓ No
It will normally be appropriate to take no further action
Advise complainantPersonally distasteful or offensive doesn’t qualify.
Disorderly conduct seems to mean disruptions that intimidate or prevent people from exercising their lawful rights or accessing goods & services they are legally entitled to. Police can impose restrictions on start & finish times, location, noise levels.
Maybe someone better versed in UK law can clarify.
This is fucking rad.
Isn’t it also not illegal to be topless. Pretty sure that one applies in Scotland as well anyway. Simply being naked isn’t a crime, doing it to cause distress is though. A protest like this would be fine.
Nudity is legal in the UK for everyone, that’s a non story. UK is not America.
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Pretty sure it’s just a bug in the federation of images between blahaj.zone and lemmy.world, but it was a funny coincidence.
