• Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    If abiding to the law destroys your business then you are a criminal. Simple as.

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        You can’t have a better law. Copyright laws are one-sided towards $billion companies. They would never agree to give more power to small creators or (worse) open-source projects who rely on such laws without making money.

        • Oniononon@sopuli.xyz
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          29 days ago

          Yes you can. Raise awareness, vote, contact representatives, organise and sign a large petition. This is eu only, if youre in us use 2nd amendment as intended in order to get your democracy back.

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    30 days ago

    If I ran the zoo, then any AI that trained on intellectual property as if it were public domain would automatically become public domain itself.

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      Indeed. Simply that. If a business is not sustainable without breaking the law, it is not a business, it’s a criminal organisation.

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    29 days ago

    If your industry can’t exist without theft then your industry doesn’t deserve to exist, pretty simple.

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      Copying isn’t theft, the original still exists. Just like watching pirated movies.

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        If someone pirates a movie for home use its no big deal because yes. If someone pirates a movie and then opens a movie theatre and starts charging people to watch the movie that’s an entirely different matter. AI is a business generating income, not a person skipping out on a $4 rental fee.

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        The AI industry doesn’t want to abolish or reform copyright law, they just want an exception so that they can keep appropriating shit. On the contrary, they’re pretty mad that AI stuff isn’t covered by more copyright.

        AI bros are not on the side of open culture.

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        Copying isn’t theft, the original still exists. Just like watching pirated movies.

        Shit take when the results are used for profit. Most of us that pirate aren’t legally monetizing our stash.

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        Cool, so I can torrent without a VPN now?

        Oh, only the super rich can benefit. How convenient.

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    Pure entitlement mindset.

    If your business is not able to stay afloat while providing fair compensation to those whose labor is used, whether employee, co-owner, or third-party, you are not entitled to keep running it. Society doesn’t have a duty to prop up wealthy thieves.

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    oh noes

    Look, these goddamn assholes have got in their head that they have a right to profit.

    NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO PROFIT.

    You have a right to try to create a profit and there are rules to that. You’re gonna lose your billions in investment if you can’t plaigerize content?..fuck you, your loss, and you shoulda fucking known better when the idea was presented to you.

    Assholes

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    I have a proposition. Raid them with police and search their computers for stolen data like you would do with your citizens.

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    If being declined concent is going to kill your industry then maybe your industry deserved to die.

    Fucking rapist mentaility right there.

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      My thought exactly. If consent isn’t needed, what other actions do they deem justified without consent?

      This is not a IP-issue, this is about human rights.

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    Using the same logic, it is “implausible” that we would not take money from those who have it and give it to the sheer volume of people who need it.

    Oh. Suddenly it doesn’t work that way. Huh. Funny how that is.

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      It depends on how rich you are. CEOs have their own, reduced edition of the law.